Very interesting, I asked Craig at JavaOne and he said that he planned to make a compatibility layer for struts. I talked to him at the ApacheCon Comdex booth and he seemed less sure. I didn't dig too deeply, but he still seemed to hold that view. This seems to go further the other direction. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. From: Thomas L Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Research Triangle Java User's Group mailing list."<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:40:11 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Juglist] JSF _and_ Struts On this ever-popular (to me only?) topic, a recent pronouncement: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED] e.org&msgNo=22797 (some reformatting) > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:22:13 -0800 > From: Craig R. McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: What about Struts 2.0 and JSF? > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > I am wondering what is the relation between Struts 2.0 and JSF. > It should certainly be possible to use JavaServer Faces in your view > tier of a Struts 2.0 based app. > > Will Struts be an implementation of JSF specification? > That hasn't been articulated on the list of goals to date. If we > want an Apache open source implementation of JSF, I would recommend > it be done in a separate project (certainly can be overlapping > developers if existing Struts folks are interested). (I will leave it to Andy to say if JSF _can_ be "done right" :-) > The Struts 2.0 design should probably take into account where JSF is > going -- watch for additional news in that regard very soon -- so > that integration can happen in response to UI events from a > JSF-based UI, but most of what we're talking about for Struts 2.0 is > actually in the controller, not the view. Now it's certainly possible that McClanahan et (Sun ?-) al are secretly planning for JSF to "replace Struts," i.e. be a complete, mo', betta' MVC Solution For All Your Web Application Needs(tm), and this is all part of some elaborate double game. Alternatively, it seems more reasonable that, longer-term, * JSF specializes in view-space and supporting Model1- and RAD-ish tooling * Struts specializes in control foo, e.g. struts-chain, workflow. * SFIL continues to be maintained * sane web frameworks specialize and maintain integration interfaces * developers choose what makes their little hearts go pitter-pat More reasonable to me, anyway--am I missing something? _______________________________________________ Juglist mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org _______________________________________________ Juglist mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org
