On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Daniel Westervelt <
daniel.westerv...@canonical.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 12/04/2013 02:36 PM, Tim Penhey wrote:
> > On 05/12/13 02:22, Daniel Westervelt wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/04/2013 05:51 AM, James Page wrote:
> >>> Hi Tim On 04/12/13 04:44, Tim Penhey wrote:
> >>>> For those who like living on the edge, we now have KVM container
> >>>> support in trunk.
> >>>
> >>> Nice work!
> >>>
> >>>> It is kinda hard to confirm it fully works right now. I need to
> >>>> actually test it on a MAAS install that is KVM capable.
> >>>
> >>>> Constraints aren't yet supported, that should be coming tomorrow
> >>>>  (fingers crossed).
> >>>
> >>>> Also landed recently is a KVM option for the local provider.
> >>>> For the truly trivial, add "container: kvm" to the local
> >>>> configuration.
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible to mix LXC and KVM containers under the local
> >>> provider?
> >> This is very important to many of our use cases, I eagerly await
> >> confirmation that it is indeed the way it works?
> >
> > This was never the intention.  The local provider uses containers to
> > imitate machines, and only one type of container is supported for any
> > given environment.
> Too bad.  There are many instances, especially with openstack, where you
> might want to juju deploy some charms to lxc and some to kvm.  Is there
> some major technical challenge to adding support for this?
> >
> > As John mentioned, it is feasible to allow lxc within a kvm container,
> nice to know but not as interested in that. deep nesting tends to hurt
> my head.
> > but mixed lxc/kvm machines are not supported by the local provider.
> >
> > However, if you main environment provider is MAAS, then you can create
> > both lxc and kvm containers in those machines.
> There are times when the overhead of having MAAS just for this purpose
> does not seem to make sense.
>

manual provider is pretty much gold in those cases, where you want flexible
provisioning that juju doesn't natively provide. ie in this case create
some kvms and lxcs outside of juju and add-machine.

-k
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