Hi Jorge, I was just watching the playback, and wanted to try and clear up null provider vs. manual provisioning.
As you discussed, the manual provisioning command is agnostic of the provider. However, the resulting agents currently do not work properly with the majority of providers, and really only *currently* guaranteed to work properly with the null provider. The null provider essentially just wraps up manual provisioning for the bootstrap node. i.e. "juju bootstrap" in a null-provider environment will do something similar to "juju add-machine ssh:...". Because the two things are so closely connected, I put them all on one page. I'm loath to have manual provisioning separate, to avoid the inevitable "why doesn't my manually provisioned machine work with ec2?" Cheers, Andrew On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Jorge O. Castro <jo...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > Rendered version: > > http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/manual-null-provider-is-here-aka-juju-status-for-9-october/1095 > > ## General Info > - [Pad](http://pad.ubuntu.com/7mf2jvKXNa) > - [Status Board]( > https://trello.com/board/charmers-board/4ec1696da3f94bd2ea5b2b01) > - [Juju.u.c Meeting > Site](https://juju.ubuntu.com/community/weekly-charm-meeting/) > - [Video of Meeting](http://youtu.be/ItpPwPWCcj8) > > ## Highlights > > - Pending 1.16 release > - Manual provider landing > - Ton of stuff! > - Release crunch time > - Amulet 1.0.0 and 1.0.1 released > - Charm school: > - Announcements: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2013-October/003015.html && > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2013-October/003017.html > > ## Docs > > New structure for author docs > - docs in progress for 1.16 > - Manual provider branch incoming > > ## Tools > > - Upcoming 1.0.1 release to address charmworld and brew installation issues > - Work on adding support for bundles, new proof criteria for > [1.1](https://launchpad.net/charm-tools/+milestone/1.1) > > ## Helpers > > - No new changes to report > > ## Amulet > > - [1.0.0](https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2013-October/003015.html > ) > Released > - [1.0.1](https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/juju/2013-October/003017.html > ) > Released > - Work on 1.1 ongoing, better relationship mapping and support for > interface documenting > > ## Charm Updates > > - 71 items in the Review Queue! > - Incoming Sensu charms, thanks Paul C! > - Elasticsearch, Logstash updates thanks to Paul C! > > ## Events > > - ConfigManagement Day @ FOSDEM: CFP is open > - SCALE CFP is open! > > ## GOALS > > > - [marco] Release/Mail list on Amulet instructions, and general > information: DONE > - [jorge] Openstack bundle deployment thing from jamespage: BLOCKED > - Talked to Adam_g, I am going to test this this week. > - [utlemming] Schedule in rails doc testing: TODO > - [m_3] mapR charm review: INPROGRESS > - [marco] Get 1.0 charm-tools into precise: BLOCKED > > - [jorge] - Document the null provider: INPROGRESS > - [jorge] Document manual provisioning via add-machine ssh: TODO > - [marcoceppi] Document SimpleStreams, scrub docs to make sure > public-bucket-url and friends are updated: TODO > - [jorge] - Local provider troubleshooting: TODO > - [nickveitch] - File a bug to bring -v back (show-log? really?): TODO > - [nickveitch] - Document tags in the MAAS provider: TODO > - [nickveitch] - control-bucket is now chosen automatically if omitted > from the configuration for new ec2 and openstack environments.: TODO > - [nickveitch] - admin-secret is now chosen automatically if omitted > from the configuration of a new environment.: TODO > - [jorge] [nickveitch] - Create a logging page. Logging has changed. > You can specify an environment variable > "JUJU_LOGGING_CONFIG", or you can specify --log-config on the > command line. To show the log on the command line, now use --show-log. > The --debug has been kept to be short-hand for > "--log-config=<root>=DEBUG --show-log", and --verbose has been > deprecated with its current meaning.: TODO > - [marcoceppi] Document charmhelper http relations: TODO > > > -- > Jorge Castro > Canonical Ltd. > http://juju.ubuntu.com/charm-championship - Share your infrastructure, > win a prize! > > -- > Juju mailing list > Juju@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju >
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