Charm-helpers uses a trick for this, which is to check if the
"private-address" key was set on the relation.
You can have a better look here:
https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~charm-helpers/charm-helpers/devel/view/head:/charmhelpers/core/hookenv.py#L393

Hope this helps :)

- Chris

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Tudor Rogoz <ro...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone knows how to determine when a relation is establish (when the
> relation joined or relation changed hooks ended) ? The goal would be to be
> able to synchronously run the “juju add-relation” command.
>
> Thanks,
> Tudor
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