Hi Mark
What's your opinion to adding outflowing and peer-flowing capabilities to resources? Outflowing: from charm to operator, peer-flowing: from charm to charm. I'm not sure if there is such a big conceptual difference between inflowing, outflowing and peer-flowing. I have the tendency to see an operator as just another Charm. This might become reality when the "stacks" functionality gets introduced because then there will be a charm-like entity that manages a bunch of charms... This might make that transition easier... Kind regards Merlijn 2016-04-05 2:42 GMT-07:00 Mark Shuttleworth <m...@ubuntu.com>: > > We should definitely have a mechanism for large-file output from actions > and other hooks. I think resources are "inward flowing", they come from the > charmer or they are provided by the operator. You're looking for "outward > flowing" blobs. > > As I recall, the intention was that actions could drop results into the > controller in a way that was friendly to large BLOB results. That's why we > have an async action output and result mechanism. I reckon it would be fine > to use resources for input to actions (there would just be a specific > user-provided resource name and there would be only one version of that at > any given time), but we want to make sure that output can also be > efficiently handled regardless of size, so if we need to improve that, > let's crack on. > > Mark > > > On 04/04/16 16:56, Merlijn Sebrechts wrote: > > Hi Stuart > > > Thanks for this explanation. 16MB is definitely a step in the right > direction. However, in the future I'll need to transfer even bigger files. > Is there a possibility for using resources for this in the future? It would > be great if an action could upload a file to the resources server so the > admin can download it from there. > > > > Kind regards > Merlijn Sebrechts > > 2016-04-03 19:34 GMT-07:00 Stuart Bishop <stuart.bis...@canonical.com> > <stuart.bis...@canonical.com>: > > > On 4 April 2016 at 02:00, Merlijn Sebrechts <merlijn.sebrec...@gmail.com> > <merlijn.sebrec...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi all > > > The apache-kafka charm has an action "read-topic" that can return a lot > > of > > data. Sometimes, this data is too long to be passed to `action-set` by > commandline. You get the following error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "actions/read-topic", line 36, in <module> > hookenv.action_set({'output': output}) > File > "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/charmhelpers/core/hookenv.py", > > line > > 615, in action_set > subprocess.check_call(cmd) > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 535, in check_call > retcode = call(*popenargs, **kwargs) > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 522, in call > return Popen(*popenargs, **kwargs).wait() > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 710, in __init__ > errread, errwrite) > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 1327, in _execute_child > raise child_exception > OSError: [Errno 7] Argument list too long > > > Is there any way to pass a file to action-set? > > This bug affects many of the Juju tools causing charms to fail at > scale. https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1437366 > (relation-set) is the only one I know of that has been > fixed.https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1274460 (juju-log) is still > open. leader-set also fails now I think of it, but I haven't tripped > over that one (it limits scalability the way I'm using leadershp > settings, but I should be able to squeeze out several hundred units). > Maybe we can use the opportunity to fix quoting and encoding issues. > > I suspect if you can get past command line length limitations, I > suspect the next glass ceiling is a 16MB document size limit in > MongoDB (which is large enough to not need fixing?) > > -- > Stuart Bishop <stuart.bis...@canonical.com> <stuart.bis...@canonical.com> > > > > >
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