I see, if I put this into a module in a package will this still be 
nessecery? I read that when defining a module, base is implicitly imported.

On Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:58:33 PM UTC+1, Leah Hanson wrote:
>
> You need to either `import Base.start` or implement a function named 
> `Base.start` instead of `start`. That change will make your `start` 
> function extend the one from Base with new methods, rather than being a 
> separate function that happens to be named `start`. (This is a super common 
> confusion.)
>
> -- Leah
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Ben Ward <axolotl...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I've given this a go but it does not quite work as expected:
>>
>> immutable DepthFirst
>>     tree::Phylogeny
>> end
>>
>> function start(x::DepthFirst)
>>   state = Stack(PhyNode)
>>   push!(state, x.tree.Root)
>>   return state
>> end
>>
>> function next(x::DepthFirst, state)
>>   current::PhyNode = pop!(state)
>>   for i in current.Children
>>     push!(state, i)
>>   end
>>   return current, state
>> end
>>
>> function done(x::DepthFirst, state)
>>   return length(state) == 0 ? true : false
>> end
>>
>> Then:
>>
>> *for i in DepthFirst(myTree)*
>>
>> *i*
>>
>> *end*
>>
>> results in:
>>
>> *ERROR: `start` has no method matching start(::DepthFirst)*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * in anonymous at no file*
>>
>> I'm not sure why this is - I have a method defined start() for the 
>> utterable immutable DepthFirst trivial type. I'm clearly missing something 
>> here.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:58:09 PM UTC+1, Tim Holy wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you check out the examples I suggested? :) 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 27, 2014 11:56:16 AM Ben Ward wrote: 
>>> > I had not considered this - so state variable is a complex type which 
>>> would 
>>> > have say the Queue/Stack and current value, and the start, next and 
>>> done 
>>> > methods update it? 
>>> > 
>>> > On Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:48:56 PM UTC+1, Tim Holy wrote: 
>>> > > Why can't you keep track of everything in the state variable, and 
>>> make 
>>> > > your 
>>> > > iterator-types trivial? 
>>> > > 
>>> > > --Tim 
>>> > > 
>>> > > On Sunday, July 27, 2014 11:07:36 AM Ben Ward wrote: 
>>> > > > My traverser types are not exactly wrappers quite a simple as they 
>>> > > 
>>> > > contain 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > FIFO and FILO structures that keep track of things - I struggle to 
>>> > > 
>>> > > imagine 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > how else to have them. Do the three iterate methods necessarily 
>>> need to 
>>> > > > have the second argument "state"? My types know they are done - 
>>> > > > hasReachedEnd() - because there are no more nodes to visit in 
>>> their 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Ahead 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > Queue/Stack. So would a done() that only requires the type be 
>>> sufficient 
>>> > > > with no state input variable as in done(tier, state)? 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > Best, 
>>> > > > Ben. 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > On Sunday, July 27, 2014 4:49:24 PM UTC+1, Tim Holy wrote: 
>>> > > > > You can obtain different types of iteration simply by wrapping 
>>> "obj" 
>>> > > 
>>> > > in 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > different thin-wrappers. For example, you can define 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > immutable SomeOtherWayOfTraversing{T} 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > >         obj::T 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > end 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > which is used as 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > for x in SomeOtherWayOfTraversing(obj) 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > >     # blah 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > end 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > and then write the specific start, next, done methods like this: 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > start{T}(iter::SomeOtherWayOfTraversing{T}) 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > You can get totally different behavior this way from what would 
>>> happen 
>>> > > > > when you 
>>> > > > > just say "for x in obj...". 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > You might want to browse through more packages to see more 
>>> examples. 
>>> > > > > Here's 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > one: 
>>> > > https://github.com/timholy/Grid.jl/blob/
>>> 600cbcf645a73525fb6d563d5a148b9d8b 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > 2668aa/src/counter.jl but many other packages (DataFrames, Gtk, 
>>> HDF5, 
>>> > > 
>>> > > etc) 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > define iterators. 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > --Tim 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > On Sunday, July 27, 2014 06:41:43 AM Ben Ward wrote: 
>>> > > > > > I'm not nessecerily trying it iterate over the children of a 
>>> node. 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > Rather I 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > have defined a series of types that facilitate traversing a 
>>> tree in 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > various 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > ways for my Phylogenetics.jl package, for example by depth 
>>> first: 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > type TraverserCore 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > >   Start::PhyNode 
>>> > > > > >   Behind::Stack 
>>> > > > > >   History::Array{PhyNode, 1} 
>>> > > > > >   Current::PhyNode 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > type DepthFirstTraverser <: TreeTraverser 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > >   Ahead::Stack 
>>> > > > > >   Core::TraverserCore 
>>> > > > > >   function DepthFirstTraverser(tree::Phylogeny) 
>>> > > > > >   
>>> > > > > >     x = new(Stack(PhyNode), TraverserCore(tree.Root, 
>>> Stack(PhyNode), 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > PhyNode 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > [], tree.Root)) 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > >     for i in x.Core.Current.Children 
>>> > > > > >     
>>> > > > > >       push!(x.Ahead, i) 
>>> > > > > >     
>>> > > > > >     end 
>>> > > > > >     return x 
>>> > > > > >   
>>> > > > > >   end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > It has methods like: 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > function next!(x::DepthFirstTraverser) 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > >   push!(x.Core.Behind, x.Core.Current) 
>>> > > > > >   x.Core.Current = pop!(x.Ahead) 
>>> > > > > >   for i in x.Core.Current.Children 
>>> > > > > >   
>>> > > > > >     push!(x.Ahead, i) 
>>> > > > > >   
>>> > > > > >   end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > function getCurrent(x::TreeTraverser) 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > >   return x.Core.Current 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > function hasReachedEnd(x::TreeTraverser) 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > >   length(x.Ahead) > 0 ? false : true 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > Which seem similar to start, next, and done. I'd use them in a 
>>> loop 
>>> > > 
>>> > > like 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > so 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > again from Phylogenetics.jl: 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > while true 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > >     show(getCurrent(traverser)) 
>>> > > > > >     if hasReachedEnd(traverser) 
>>> > > > > >     
>>> > > > > >       break 
>>> > > > > >     
>>> > > > > >     end 
>>> > > > > >     next!(traverser) 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > But I'd like to make it behave more like an iterator - so be 
>>> able to 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > define 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > the iterator methods for it so I can do something like 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > for i = DepthFirstTraverser(myTree) 
>>> > > > > > # BLARGH 
>>> > > > > > end 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > And it will be translated accordingly. I think this is doable 
>>> by 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > defining 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > the three methods, making use of the types the method already 
>>> has. 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > The idea is to have a load of types that allow the user to 
>>> code 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > iteration 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > over the tree in any possible way, easily, providing there is 
>>> a 
>>> > > > > > TreeTraverser type for it. 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > Best, 
>>> > > > > > Ben. 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > On Sunday, July 27, 2014 2:14:38 PM UTC+1, Tim Holy wrote: 
>>> > > > > > > for x in obj 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > >     # blah 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > end 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > will iterate if you've defined start, next, and done 
>>> functions for 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > which 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > the 
>>> > > > > > > first argument has typeof(obj). In your case you'd 
>>> presumably use 
>>> > > 
>>> > > a 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > node 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > as 
>>> > > > > > > obj, and the traversal would be recursively over all 
>>> children of 
>>> > > 
>>> > > that 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > > > node. 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > If you want a specific tree example, check out 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > ProfileView.jl/src/tree.jl. 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > Best, 
>>> > > > > > > --Tim 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 27, 2014 05:13:39 AM Ben Ward wrote: 
>>> > > > > > > > Hi, 
>>> > > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > I've been writing a type for recursive tree structures, 
>>> and 
>>> > > 
>>> > > several 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > > > types 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > that traverse that tree in various manners like breadth 
>>> first or 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > depth 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > first. They have their own methods for getting the current 
>>> tree 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > node, 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > moving to the next node, whether an end has been reached 
>>> and so 
>>> > > 
>>> > > on. 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > The 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > contain fields for the nodes several steps ahead, those 
>>> past 
>>> > > 
>>> > > etc. I 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > > > > wondered if I might make it so as these types might easier 
>>> be 
>>> > > 
>>> > > used 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > in 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > loops 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > by giving them the iterator protocol methods? I've not 
>>> seen how 
>>> > > 
>>> > > to 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > > > define 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > custom operators, is it as simple as defining start next 
>>> and 
>>> > > 
>>> > > done? 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > > How 
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > is 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > the current value gotten? I guess its returned by next(). 
>>> > > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > Thanks, 
>>> > > > > > > > Ben. 
>>>
>>>
>

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