Might we be able to provide two (2) dowloads. We can have a beginner
download with an included JVM and an expert download with just
OpenJUMP.

SS

On 9/22/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HI Peppe,
>
>   One comment about including a  version bundled with a JVM.  The point of
> doing this, IMO is to give first time users a good tryout experience.
> Millions of open source software applications are downloaded each day on the
> web, but only a few thousand are not immediately removed.  This is caused by
> many things, but one of the most important and easily overlooked, is the
> lack of a good and foolproof install process.  Including the JVM with
> SkhJUMP has been a crucial factor in getting a trouble free install 99% of
> the time.  For users that have never loaded a JVM before and aren't familiar
> with Java, it is extremely important.
>
> regards,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> On 9/21/07, Giuseppe Aruta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> >
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> >
> > > I would rather like to move to OpenJUMP 1.3.
> >
> >
> > > But before doing so we need to make some smaller
> > > fix, for instance get a
> > > complete translation for all languages. We should
> > > setup or extend the
> > > list about what needs to be done. the current list
> > > is here:
> > >
> >
> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Todo+before+shipping+next+release
> > > Maybe we also should think about bundling some
> > > useful plugin (e.g. the
> > > printing and vertex plugin).
> >
> > Bundling/adding tools seems to go faster that the "to
> > do list". Until "to do list" will be over (and I think
> > about languages and Jukka's list), we probabily can
> > put an intermediate OJ pre-realize in the middle
> >
> > > But if the people think we should do a very soon
> > > OJ1.2E Release.. i am
> > > open for that
> >
> > Probabily the next realize has to be 1.3.
> > The development of OJ seems to go so fast that, if "to
> > do list" will be realize together with new Paul, Larry
> > and SS's tools, new OJ would be radically different
> > (2.0?) from actual one
> >
> > > About the new/improved wiki-pages..
> > > Of course we need to work on/update them. But I do
> > > not know as well who
> > > is working on what issue - and if we should write
> > > that, because it makes
> > > the things "official". which is not what I like to
> > > intend... but having
> > > the list rather informal?
> >
> > I am in favour to informal, too. I only wandered if we
> > can have a list of the ongoing openjump projects
> > ("Future developmant"). This probabily encourage users
> > to use OJ since they realize what's beyond OJ:  a
> > community of working developers.
> >
> >
> > Peppe
> >
> >
> > BTW last point of "to do list" (think about: whether
> > we should make 2 versions (one inlcuding the JVM) can
> > be easly solved writing a wiki page "how to embed JAVA
> > in OpenJUMP" (I can do for Windows - no idea about
> > Linux :()
> >
> >
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