On 21.02.2012 02:47, Stefan Steiniger wrote: > btw... I forgot: > > "eye candy" - yes agreed, and I may add something about the importance > of eye candy
never said eye candy is unimportant. it is a non functional component which is limited to a visual function. > that was in Apples marketing strategy (its from the Steve > Jobs Bio - yes I know...): that's the guy who reinvented the golden cage, right? sigh;) > “People DO judge a book by its cover, We may have the best product, the > highest quality, the most useful software etc.; if we present them in a > slipshod manner, they will be perceived as slipshod; if we present them > in a creative, professional manner, we will impute the desired qualities.”” you could have come up with a more /authoritative/ quote here, but of course this is correct. sadly i don't see the designs you submitted so far outperforming the first draft, from a design standpoint. they lack the style and balance in terms of color and motive of it. > PS: As I am working on a "Public Participation web site" my current read > is Rubin and Chisnell (2008) "Handbook of Usability Testing: How to > plan, design and conduct effective tests" - besides other literature. So this is a plain graphic design issue here, the dialog would be usability wise the same without it. probably not so appealing but please don't mix up two sports here, even if they are played in the same stadium. > my focus has changed a bit from an OJ tutorial and help to a general > thinking about what is important for software aside from functionality. > Hence, my efforts with that installer image. i support that fully. my studies in applied computer science taught me to put usability first. or better, what's the use if it is unusable. a good product is actually intuitively usable because it explains itself because it uses well known basic concepts that guide the user through it's handling. still, we have no usability problem here... ede > > Am 20.02.12 18:28, schrieb Stefan Steiniger: >> Hey, >> >> mhm...standard practice in Desktop Publishing? >> I have been working with Macromedia Freehand, Adobe Illustrator as well >> as with Photoshop, with Pagemaker and now with Inkscape & GIMP - and I >> haven't seen a tilted slpashscreen - but maybe its more done so in the >> FOS community??? >> >> Anyway for me a tilted screen is just not what I would consider a good >> user experience - though it may be found be funny. However, listening to >> your "too much white" comment. I agree and improved it. Attached my new >> version. [so much about iterative "design"] >> >> Of course another option is to simply have no image there. That would >> work for me as well. >> >> Any comments by a third - unbiased - party? We obviously needs some >> referee here ;) >> >> stefan >> >> Am 20.02.12 05:16, schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de: >>> On 19.02.2012 21:46, Stefan Steiniger wrote: >>>> Hei, >>>> >>>> - sideways is just something we should not do: (a) you can not read it >>> >>> disagreed, this is a standard practice in desktop publishing >>> >>>> and (b) it is distracting/confusing. >>> >>> seems to you, i like to hear what others say >>> let's not forget this is eye candy, not a functional component. >>> >>>> mhm.. but - in the case of just having such a thin strip it may be >>>> better to put something else there? E.g. a bit of green (= >>>> fields/forrest from top) like we had in the old installer. >>> >>> i am open to suggestions better than the state of 1.5.1 but your >>> suggestion currently in trunk is no enhancement from my point of view. >>> it wastes lots of empty white space on the left side and imbalances >>> the installer components layout. >>> >>> please everybody speak up and compare old vs. new attached. >>> >>> ..ede >>> >>>> stefan >>>> >>>> Am 19.02.12 13:35, schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de: >>>>> On 19.02.2012 21:03, Stefan Steiniger wrote: >>>>>> Hei Ede, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have made a new image for the installer (i.e. for the install >>>>>> process dialogs - not the language selection dialog). >>>>>> You think it can be used to replace the 90°-standing image? >>>>> >>>>> don't want to rain on your parade, but what is the problem with >>>>> having the logo sideways? >>>>> >>>>>> or does it need to be slimmer? >>>>> >>>>> that's the reason. we need a graphic that fits on the left side and >>>>> does not waste too much space for people with small displays. i >>>>> considered a graphic on top but that would enlarge the already quite >>>>> extensive height more and so i decided to go for wider than high >>>>> aspect ratio that works toward increasingly common wide displays. >>>>> >>>>> btw. current can be found here >>>>> http://jump-pilot.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jump-pilot/core/trunk/etc/izpack/res/ojlogo-vertical_400px.png >>>>> >>>>> there is also a photoshop layered tif if you want to play around. >>>>> >>>>>> other suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> it seems you got the typo wrong. the characters seem to be clipped >>>>> on top for some reason. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ..ede >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Virtualization& Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning >>>>> Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing >>>>> also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. >>>>> http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >>>>> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Virtualization& Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning >>>> Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing >>>> also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. >>>> http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >>>> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Try before you buy = See our experts in action! >>>> The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers >>>> is just $99.99! 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