Hi Jukka, Thanks for the information. I guess I had not really seriously considered using Java Web Start as a deployment option. After checking it out again, I see that it can be used to deploy applications in a sandbox that can only access data through the net. That may be a possibility.
regards, Larry On Nov 8, 2007 2:23 AM, Rahkonen Jukka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Larry, > > We have used OpenJUMP for web GIS in a pilot project this summer. That's > why OpenJUMP wfs-plugin was developed. > The idea behind the pilot was to get background imagery (topo maps and > aerial photos) through WMS and original vectors from the central GIS > database through WFS. WFS should be a standard but in real life all servers > and clients do not necessarily work together, so the wfs-plugin was > developed against GeoServer 1.5 and WFS version 1.0 (non-transactional). > > We wished to use OpenJUMP as web GIS editor because we need to do things > like split and merge polygons and edit neighbouring features together. > Keeping topology clean is essential, and for all these things OJ is very > good tool. > We did not use WFS-T for returning the edited data back to the database > for couple of reasons. For example, we need to do some validity checks for > the returned data and we had ready made database procedures already for > doing that. So our solution was to read source data through WFS on a base > layer, make an editable copy or that, and after edits find the differences > with OJ spatial operations. Finally the editet features were stored into > shapefile that was sent further by using our existing route. > > I could well imagine that OpenJUMP downloaded by Java web start system > could be used together with WFS-T for a professional quality web GIS vector > editing. Unfortunately OJ wfs-plugin does not work in WFS-T mode with > GeoServer and I do not have deegree WFS installed. > > If you want to see an extremely simple to use web editor, then have a look > on the Flash based editor used by the OpenStreetMap project at > openstreetmapo.org. > > -Jukka Rahkonen- > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *Lähettäjä:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Puolesta *Larry Becker > *Lähetetty:* 7. marraskuuta 2007 18:26 > *Vastaanottaja:* JUMP Users Discussion > *Aihe:* Re: [jump-users] Slightly off topic:The state of web GIS > > Thank you all for your comments. They were very helpful. From what I > have seen, we may be on the crux of a new era of web GIS. Demos like > http://crschmidt.net/mapping/wpserverdemo/index.html > (OpenLayers on top of WPServer) show what can be done. > > However, it all does still look a bit experimental from where I stand. > Since my project is going to last several years (forever in internet time), > it would appear to be wise to sit it out for a while and see what shakes > out. It is hard to know who the big players will be. The old guard of GIS, > ESRI, AutoDesk, and the like seem almost insignificant beside the likes of > Google, Microsoft, and the growing open source movement. > > regards, > > Larry > > On Nov 7, 2007 8:01 AM, Nutsch, Bob D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Larry, > > > > I wonder if GeoServer, with it's transactional WFS capabilities, would > > be of assistance? That, along with OpenLayers may provide your client with > > some of the needed tools. > > > > Regards, Bob > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Larry Becker > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:40 PM > > *To:* JUMP Users Discussion > > *Subject:* [jump-users] Slightly off topic:The state of web GIS > > > > Hello all, > > > > I'm in the early stages of a new, but long anticipated software > > project involving GIS. My assumption has always been that the role of the > > GIS client would be filled by SkyJUMP, and the role of the GIS server would > > be filled by ESRI Arc-something. Recently, I've been pressured by the > > clients to adopt a web 2.0 approach to the project for the usual > > reasons, ease of deployment, maintenance, and certification. > > > > Unfortunately, the client GIS definitely needs to support fairly heavy > > data creation and editing capabilities, plus I need to perform a good bit of > > customization to integrate it with another application that will be a > > consumer of some of the GIS data. The direction that I have been pointed by > > the clients is toward ArcServer's new Web Editing capability. However, we > > have found that ESRI changes the direction of their platform every three or > > four years, leaving frustrated early adopters in their wake. To paraphrase > > Obi-Wan, "I would prefer to avoid any ESRI entanglements." > > > > So my question for all of you GIS gurus out there is, "What is the > > state of web GIS?" Can the current state of the art handle my scenario, or > > is it still too soon? > > > > And since this is a JUMP users discussion list, I'll also pose the > > question, "Could JUMP be morphed into an editing web client?" > > > > best regards, > > > > Larry Becker > > Integrated Systems Analysts, Inc. > > > > -- > > http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > jump-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users > > > > > > > -- > http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > jump-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users > > -- http://amusingprogrammer.blogspot.com/
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