I'd like to know this PR no. as well. 

-Ben

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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Best practice to manage log information

Hi Beny,
I'm also looking to use 8.5R3.  Do you have the PR no. you refer to ??

Rgds,
Melvyn 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beny D Setyawan
Sent: 14 July 2008 17:07
To: Briant,A,Alain,JPECS R; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Best practice to manage log information

Hi Alain,

I'm sorry to for the late response since I do working deep on this problem.
Finally I already get answer for this particular problem. This problem happened 
to all my M10i & M7i router that running JunOS 8.5 R3.4 (this is the problem) 
and FYI, I need to use JunOS 8.5R3.4 because of the new PIC 4 port STM-1 SFP 
interfaces. The history as I said before that my M-series router hang and need 
to restart the cfeb and sometime I need to hard reboot the chassis. During last 
2 weeks my 9 M10i suddenly running with backup routing-engine and my 10 M7i 
freeze/hang and all running with JunOS 8.5R3.4.
Even the old router that never problem when running JunOS 8.0R34 after I did 
upgrade to JunOS 8.5R3.4 also had the same problem. The key is on my M7i 
router, during the problem no alarm indicator in the chassis for all interfaces 
and chassis itself. Also the router didn't create core dump at all. JTAC 
already create PR release for this problem. From the PR said that this problem 
happened to JunOS 8.5R3.4 or above.

Since there is no JunOS release to solved this problem, I have to downgrade all 
my M-series (total 33 routers) that running JunOS 8.5R3.4 to JunOS 8.4R4.2. 
It's going to be along hard work weekend ....

Regards,
Beny D Setyawan


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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Best practice to manage log information

Hi Beny

Sory for this late answer

I am not sure I catch you well but if you're wondering what is the root cause 
of your hard disk activity just see the age of the different files on it.
If you say that you have some other traces leading to some "Mpls_statistic"
files changed every 5 minutes, I am quite sure that's an heavy load for the 
hard disk.
Just think if you realy need this trace (statistics) to be activated !

Regards
Alain


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De : Beny D Setyawan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : samedi 21 juin 2008 
18:34 À : Briant,A,Alain,JPECS R; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Objet : RE: 
[j-nsp] Best practice to manage log information

Hi Alain,

My router basically use bellow configuration for the system syslog.

syslog {
    user * {
        any emergency;
    }
    host 10.xxx.xxx.xxx {       ### to syslog server ###
        any any;
        authorization any;
        interactive-commands any;
    }
    file messages {
        authorization info;
        daemon any;
        kernel any;
        user any;
        pfe any;
        interactive-commands critical;
    }
    file log_config_user {
        authorization any;
        interactive-commands any;
        archive size 5m files 5 world-readable;
    }
    file new_log {
        any notice;
        authorization info;
        daemon any;
        kernel any;
        archive size 10m files 5;
    }
    source-address 10.xxx.xxx.x;
}

What I'm trying to do is removing log_config_user and new_log and send it to 
syslog, also change the configuration of file messages. But in mpls protocols, 
we used auto-bandwidth mechanism with file mpls_statistic on it.
Mpls_statistic file changes every 5 minutes and saved it into the harddisk also 
making the harddisk doing write-erase. I'm not sure that mpls_statistic need to 
be change also based on trends of the traffic itself on the mpls network. What 
still out of my mind is the root caused that making harddisk busy, is it the 
syslog or mpls_statistic and I'm sure that harddisk working every time just 
like others harddsik.


Thanks,
Beny D Setyawan

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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:37 PM
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Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Best practice to manage log information

Hi Beny

I believe the best Start is the default syslog config of JUNOS:

system {
    syslog {
        user * {
            any emergency;
        }
        file messages {
            any notice;
            authorization info;
        }
        file interactive-commands {
            interactive-commands any;
        }
    }
}

After that you can add, as new target, the syslog server and add some more 
traces but carefully.

You must keep in mind that for local logs (on the hard disk) if you see your 
log files rotating too fast (I mean if your files with the default size and 
number do not cover more than One week of time) they will be useless.

Regarding the trace-options you must be careful also with some "flag all"
statements that are writing on the disk a hudge amount of data.

We've had sometimes some M series hanged because of some heavy traces.

First thing so is to have a quick look at your log files:
"Show log ?" 
If you see some of them that are rotating too fast, start removing some traces 
leading that.

Hope this help

Alain


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juin 2008 13:30 À : juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Objet :
[j-nsp] Best practice to manage log information

Hi List,

 

Somehow my m-series hang and need to reboot. JTAC suspected that this is due to 
harddisk busy, since there were so many log that write-erase to the harddisk 
and suggested to reduce that process. Does anyone has information what is the 
best practice on how to manage syslog severity on the Juniper router? Which log 
should be send to syslog server and should be save also in the router itself.

The goal is how to make the router healhty by reduce log of changing any 
information on the router from harddisk on the routing-engine perspective.
But in the other hand we need the log information for the NMS.

 

Thanks & Rgds,

Beny D Setyawan

 

 

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