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On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:24:57PM -0400, Joseph Soricelli wrote:
In all seriousness part of my advice does include having a good
breakfast - in addition to getting a good night's sleep and arriving
early to the testing center. When I was proctoring these exams from
2001-2005 I can't tell you how many people failed due to feeling
rushed (arrived at 8:55) or from a sugar crash, etc.

In all seriousness (so I can't be accused of being a COMPLETE asshole
:P)... Unless you live where the test is, you really do want to drive
around the day before to figure out where everything is, especially
where you're going to eat lunch.
>>Yep, a little recon is always a good thing.

I agree that experience and hands-on time are critical to the exam. I
also like the tips about reading all of the steps before you start
typing and about asking the proctor for clarification.

Agreed, I did come across a few questions which were extremely ambiguous
and required proctor clarification. And a couple junos cli bugs and
crashing FPCs mid-test too, for that matter.
>>Those are definitely NOT part of the exam. ;-) I will say that as soon as you even think you have a problem like that you need to notify the proctor so they can add time back to your exam (assuming it is a real HW problem)

I generally say that the JNCIP has a narrow topic list (really system,
IGP, BGP, Policy) but that you need to know those topics really well.

When talking about the JNCIE, the topic list grows exponentially - and
you still need to know those topics really well. Important things to
be cognizant of include:

What I noticed was that JNCIP followed the book VERY closely, while the
JNCIE lab seemed to diverge quite a bit more. There was one section on
the JNCIE lab that was straight out of the JNCIP book, for example. Also
the general tone of the test changes, from a very direct "follow these
instructions step by step" to an indirect "try to figure out what
they're actually asking you to do based on the requirements without them
specifically stating what you need to do".
>>LOL. Yeah, it can be hard to creatively say to build a L3VPN without explicitly stating "Build a L3VPN".

- The ability to make 3 different IGPs exchange routes with each other
across mutual points of redistribution in more than one place in the
network. Oh, btw, no routing loops or instability. ;-)

And if you really do hit a snag on those IGPs, cheating with a couple
static routes and/or turning on MPLS shortcuts to defeat those routing
loops really can let you pass the test anyways. :)
>>Yep, not recommended of course but always an option.

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