On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 03:46:41PM +0200, magno wrote: > Today Trio only supports the old style config. in the near future, the > new style config will be supported as well.
I have several problems with the way Juniper handled this: 1. The configuration commits without any warnings or errors. There is no indication that what you have configured is unsupported. No logs, no alarms, no nothing. 2. I've seen MPCs crash/go into a reboot loop when configuring them the new VLAN Bundle way. (For the OP: do your MPC's go into a reboot loop, alternately showing offline/online under show chassis fpc pic-status?) They should gracefully fail to work when doing something unsupported and make loud noises when you do. 3. Documentation is severely lacking. In the 10.2 Release Notes, no where does it say "today Trio only supports JUNOS 9.2 features" (except when talking about the MX80 specifically, and some other specific features--nothing about the other Trio cards or about bridging/VLAN Bundles specifically). I've only heard that from statements made by my Juniper reps. Even then, you have to really dig deep in the Network Interfaces guide and Layer 2 Configuration Guide to find references to "9.5+ required" on VLAN Bundles and other configuration statements and features. The 10.x Release Notes really ought to say "In this release, Trio only supports JUNOS 9.2 features and configurations on the following cards and platforms" and then list out *exactly* which hardware and configuration statements this applies to. The rest of the configuration guides ought to have warnings sprinkled throughout saying "Not supported on Trio!" with pointers to the old way that works on Trio. These warnings should stay in the documentation and Release Notes until the limitations no longer apply. The current situation is a horrible landmine for customers wishing to migrate/upgrade from DPC to Trio, as well as brand new customers like myself who haven't read the 9.2 documentation and earlier Release Notes. Why should I have to go back 7 releases worth of documentation to configure my brand new hardware that is only supported at all under 10.0/10.1 and only supported under 10.2 when mixed with DPC cards? Finally, JTAC/ATAC can't even figure out the above!!! I have a case open and they *still* haven't come to the solution because they haven't realized that "Today Trio only supports the old style config" and what that really means. _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp