Hello,
> Hi all, > > these codes are basically the same, both are MX80 based devices with a > MIC 1x20GE (all mics are commercially called 3D, no difference here) > already installed in one of the two available slots. On MX5 (and in the > commercial bundle MX80-5) the 20x1G MIC is the only card available to > connect the MX to the network, as the on board 10GE ports are software > restricted and not configurable. That is not true. The ports are configurable and usable. But you need a license to be allowed to use them. The license is just paperwork and you dont need to activate it somewhere. However this policy will change in the future, all MX5/10/40 bundles and line cards are EEPROM coded and a later JunOS will activate these limitations (ask your channel partner about this...). > > So, the two differences are: > > 1) the MX5 is a chassis which is phisically grey and you can read MX5 on > the front panel, whereas MX80-5-DC-B is a commercial bundle based on a MX80 > chassis; the commercial bundle was needed to have a faster go to market > time schedule, that's it; of course, MX5 chassis (and MX10 & MX40) are > exactly an MX80, just the color and the label on the front panel change; > 2) the "T" versions (all the T versions, MX5, 10,40 and also MX80-T) > supports Sync-E according with G.8261 / G.8262 standards; No, we have multiple MX5/MX10 boxes and none of them have any visual difference to a "real" MX80. If they changed this in the last 2 months, then this must be new. > > 1) is just commercial, whereas 2) is a technical difference. > > Both models are field upgradable to MX10, MX40 and MX80 using the same > licensing scheme. If you need MX5 now, my advice is to go with the bundle > as the real MX5 will ship end of this year (11.2R4/11.4R1 time frame). > Hope this helps! > > Magno. > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote: > > > There are bundles and then there are "base units". The bundles typically > > include the MIC-3D-20GE-SFP - there were no MIC's that I'm aware of that > > weren't 3D ... definitely not on the MX80 platform. Yes, MX5 is > > modular.... > > it's physically the same as an MX80 box, just with software based > > restrictions in place (which unless it's changed are honor system based > > still) as noted by "4x10G fixed ports and 1x front empty MIC slot > > restricted" .. restricted = not usable without software upgrade. > > > > Paul > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net > > [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Wormington > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:22 PM > > To: sth...@nethelp.no > > Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX5-T-DC vs MX80-5G-DC-B > > > > I agree the specs look to be the same, the only difference I can see is the > > MX5 says it includes a MIC-3D-20GE-SFP and the MX80 a 20x1G MIC. > > Did they make a MIC that wasn't 3D? > > > > I'm pretty sure the MX5 is modular as well since it has the open MIC slot > > that you can get an upgrade license to be able to use. > > > > On 11/18/2011 01:37 PM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: > > >> The T version is copper only. The DC version is modular. > > > > > > Certain about this? In my price list (from August), these bundles are > > > listed with exactly the same price. > > > > > > MX80-5G-DC-B: > > > MX80 Promotional 5G Bundle, Includes MX80 Modular DC, spare DC Power > > > supply, 20x1G MIC including L3-ADV license, Queuing, Inline Jflow, > > > Junos WW. (4x10G fixed ports and 1x front empty MIC slot restricted) > > > > > > > > > MX5-T-DC: > > > MX5 DC chassis with timing support - includes dual power supplies, > > > MIC-3D-20GE-SFP, Junos, S-MX80-ADV-R, S-MX80-Q& S-ACCT-JFLOW-IN-5G > > > licenses. Power-supply cable to be ordered separately > > > > > > Sure looks to me like the specifications are the same too. > > > > > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no > > > > > > > > >> On Nov 18, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Kevin Wormington wrote: > > >> > > >> I'm looking at the above two MX bundles and other than timing support on > > the MX5 they seem to have the same specs. Is there something that I'm > > missing? Does anyone on the list know why one might want the MX80-5G-DC-B > > vs the MX5-T-DC? > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Kevin > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > > > _______________________________________________ > > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > > _______________________________________________ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
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