Hi There

I am constantly getting these log messages for last few days:-

sshd[21015]: Failed password for root from X.X.103.152 port 21067 ssh2
sshd[21016]: Received disconnect from X.X.103.152: 11: Normal Shutdown, Thank 
you for playing


Are these indicating any brute-force attack ?Thanks
HM




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   1. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor" (ryanL)
   2. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor" (Phil Shafer)
   3. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor" (Eric Van Tol)
   4. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor" (Jerry Dent)
   5. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor" (Brent Sweeny)
   6. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
      (Fernando Garcia Fernandez)
   7. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor" (ryanL)
   8. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
      (Jonas Frey (Probe Networks))
   9. Re: proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor" (sth...@nethelp.no)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:22:51 -0500
From: ryanL <ryan.lan...@gmail.com>
To: p...@juniper.net
Cc: Juniper for Network Service Providers
    <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
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it's a nice-to-have, maybe? but this sounds more like an opportunity for
you to sell some JNCIA courses. i mean, how long has junos been around now?


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Phil Shafer <p...@juniper.net> wrote:

> Juniper users,
>
> We've been asked to make a change the "clear bgp neighbor" command
> to make the neighbor or "all" argument mandatory.  The root cause
> is the severe impact of "clear bgp neighbor" and the increasing
> accidental use of this command without a specific neighbor.
>
> In general, we avoid changing commands to add mandatory arguments,
> but my feeling is that the impact and severity of this specific
> command makes this an acceptable occasion for such a change.
>
> I'm looking for feedback about this change.  My working assumption
> is that "clear bgp neighbor" is a sufficiently rare command and
> would not be used in automation/scripts, so the impact of making
> the neighbor/all argument mandatory would be minimal.  Is this
> assumption accurate?
>
> Thanks,
>  Phil
>
> [I've set reply-to to myself to avoid impacting the list]
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:44:42 -0500
From: Phil Shafer <p...@juniper.net>
To: ryanL <ryan.lan...@gmail.com>
Cc: Juniper for Network Service Providers
    <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
Message-ID: <201402261844.s1qiiggl031...@idle.juniper.net>
Content-Type: text/plain

ryanL writes:
>it's a nice-to-have, maybe? but this sounds more like an opportunity for
>you to sell some JNCIA courses. i mean, how long has junos been around now?

Not selling anything; just trying to solve a problem multiple
customers have reported and escalated.  I'm a software developer,
working on the UI code (CLI, MGD, configuration, XML API, scripting)
for 17+ years.

JUNOS 3.0 (the first release with the ui code) shipped during the
summer of 1998, IIRC.

Thanks,
Phil



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:24:21 -0500
From: Eric Van Tol <e...@atlantech.net>
To: "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
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> it's a nice-to-have, maybe? but this sounds more like an opportunity for
> you to sell some JNCIA courses. i mean, how long has junos been around
> now?

Confusing comment, since this enhancement isn't about CLI inexperience.  It 
doesn't matter how long Junos has been around or how experienced someone is, 
it's still too incredibly easy to hit 'Enter' too soon and clear all your BGP 
neighbors by accident.

I don't see a problem with adding the requirement 'all'.

-evt



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:29:18 -0600
From: Jerry Dent <effinjd...@gmail.com>
To: Eric Van Tol <e...@atlantech.net>
Cc: "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
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Just add a line "Reset all bgp sessions? [Y/N]" for confirmation.


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Eric Van Tol <e...@atlantech.net> wrote:

> > it's a nice-to-have, maybe? but this sounds more like an opportunity for
> > you to sell some JNCIA courses. i mean, how long has junos been around
> > now?
>
> Confusing comment, since this enhancement isn't about CLI inexperience.
>  It doesn't matter how long Junos has been around or how experienced
> someone is, it's still too incredibly easy to hit 'Enter' too soon and
> clear all your BGP neighbors by accident.
>
> I don't see a problem with adding the requirement 'all'.
>
> -evt
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:04:54 -0800
From: Brent Sweeny <swe...@indiana.edu>
To: p...@juniper.net, Juniper for Network Service Providers
    <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
Message-ID: <530e3ad6.2010...@indiana.edu>
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Phil, I think what you propose sounds like a reasonable and
appropriately-scoped response to a real problem.
  Brent Sweeny
  Indiana University

On 2/26/2014 7:36 AM, Phil Shafer wrote:
> Juniper users,
> 
> We've been asked to make a change the "clear bgp neighbor" command
> to make the neighbor or "all" argument mandatory.  The root cause
> is the severe impact of "clear bgp neighbor" and the increasing
> accidental use of this command without a specific neighbor.
> 
> In general, we avoid changing commands to add mandatory arguments,
> but my feeling is that the impact and severity of this specific
> command makes this an acceptable occasion for such a change.
> 
> I'm looking for feedback about this change.  My working assumption
> is that "clear bgp neighbor" is a sufficiently rare command and
> would not be used in automation/scripts, so the impact of making
> the neighbor/all argument mandatory would be minimal.  Is this
> assumption accurate?
> 
> Thanks,
>  Phil
> 
> [I've set reply-to to myself to avoid impacting the list]
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:04:54 +0100
From: Fernando Garcia Fernandez <lis...@cutre.net>
To: Eric Van Tol <e...@atlantech.net>
Cc: "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
Message-ID: <ca92bfd8-e457-4aee-8fd7-c0771fcd9...@cutre.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

+1 to include the ?all? option.

In fact, coming from the IOS world, it amused me when I discovered that there 
was no ?*? or ?all? option to clear all neighbors.


El 26/02/2014, a las 20:24, Eric Van Tol <e...@atlantech.net> escribi?:

>> it's a nice-to-have, maybe? but this sounds more like an opportunity for
>> you to sell some JNCIA courses. i mean, how long has junos been around
>> now?
> 
> Confusing comment, since this enhancement isn't about CLI inexperience.  It 
> doesn't matter how long Junos has been around or how experienced someone is, 
> it's still too incredibly easy to hit 'Enter' too soon and clear all your BGP 
> neighbors by accident.
> 
> I don't see a problem with adding the requirement 'all'.
> 
> -evt
> 
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:25:00 -0500
From: ryanL <ryan.lan...@gmail.com>
To: Phil Shafer <p...@juniper.net>
Cc: Juniper for Network Service Providers
    <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
Message-ID:
    <cak_-tsajcgxr6n3-aq7w6frmz61fh+w8y30x0fhkzslzy8e...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

yeah, i'm not slagging. just seems like poor training for newbie noc
engineers or something. this is a pretty rookie error, in my view, but i've
been around almost as long as you have ;-)


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Phil Shafer <p...@juniper.net> wrote:

> ryanL writes:
> >it's a nice-to-have, maybe? but this sounds more like an opportunity for
> >you to sell some JNCIA courses. i mean, how long has junos been around
> now?
>
> Not selling anything; just trying to solve a problem multiple
> customers have reported and escalated.  I'm a software developer,
> working on the UI code (CLI, MGD, configuration, XML API, scripting)
> for 17+ years.
>
> JUNOS 3.0 (the first release with the ui code) shipped during the
> summer of 1998, IIRC.
>
> Thanks,
>  Phil
>
>


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:37:20 +0100
From: "Jonas Frey (Probe Networks)" <j...@probe-networks.de>
To: p...@juniper.net
Cc: Juniper for Network Service Providers
    <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
Message-ID: <1393447040.4974.178.camel@wks02>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

+1 for the "all" requirement

Am Mittwoch, den 26.02.2014, 10:36 -0500 schrieb Phil Shafer:
> Juniper users,
> 
> We've been asked to make a change the "clear bgp neighbor" command
> to make the neighbor or "all" argument mandatory.  The root cause
> is the severe impact of "clear bgp neighbor" and the increasing
> accidental use of this command without a specific neighbor.
> 
> In general, we avoid changing commands to add mandatory arguments,
> but my feeling is that the impact and severity of this specific
> command makes this an acceptable occasion for such a change.
> 
> I'm looking for feedback about this change.  My working assumption
> is that "clear bgp neighbor" is a sufficiently rare command and
> would not be used in automation/scripts, so the impact of making
> the neighbor/all argument mandatory would be minimal.  Is this
> assumption accurate?
> 
> Thanks,
>  Phil
> 
> [I've set reply-to to myself to avoid impacting the list]
> 
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 22:10:50 +0100 (CET)
From: sth...@nethelp.no
To: p...@juniper.net
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] proposed changes to "clear bgp neighbor"
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> We've been asked to make a change the "clear bgp neighbor" command
> to make the neighbor or "all" argument mandatory.  The root cause
> is the severe impact of "clear bgp neighbor" and the increasing
> accidental use of this command without a specific neighbor.
> 
> In general, we avoid changing commands to add mandatory arguments,
> but my feeling is that the impact and severity of this specific
> command makes this an acceptable occasion for such a change.
> 
> I'm looking for feedback about this change.  My working assumption
> is that "clear bgp neighbor" is a sufficiently rare command and
> would not be used in automation/scripts, so the impact of making
> the neighbor/all argument mandatory would be minimal.  Is this
> assumption accurate?

For us, yes. Fully support the idea of requiring an "all" argument.

Steinar Haug, AS 2116


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