Hi Jason, What your SE has told you is perfectly true, that third party transceivers are supported - however, not all transceivers are created equally, nor encoded correctly.
From your experience above, I would stick to Finistar for production and earmark the rest for lab use only. Once you find a good supplier, stick with them and if you find any issues, they will generally work with you to assist. Cheers, Graham Graham Brown Twitter - @mountainrescuer <https://twitter.com/#!/mountainrescuer> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/grahamcbrown> On 20 July 2016 at 03:59, Jason Lixfeld <jason-j...@lixfeld.ca> wrote: > Hi Brian, > > A couple of OEM and one Finisar. All show up as Media type: Fiber > > ario@lab01.juniper# run show chassis pic fpc-slot 0 pic-slot 1 > FPC slot 0, PIC slot 1 information: > Type 10x 1GE SFP > State Online > PIC version 2.4 > Uptime 3 days, 18 hours, 11 minutes, 58 seconds > > PIC port information: > Fiber Xcvr vendor Wave- > Xcvr > Port Cable type type Xcvr vendor part number > length Firmware > 0 GIGE 1000T n/a OEM GLC-T-BF > UNKNOWN WAVELENGTH1 nm - UNKNOWN WAVELENGTH2 nm 0.0 > 1 GIGE 1000T n/a FINISAR CORP. FCLF-8521-3 n/a > 0.0 > > [edit] > ario@lab01.juniper# run show chassis pic fpc-slot 0 pic-slot 3 > FPC slot 0, PIC slot 3 information: > Type 10x 1GE SFP > State Online > PIC version 2.4 > Uptime 3 days, 18 hours, 12 minutes, 10 seconds > > PIC port information: > Fiber Xcvr vendor Wave- > Xcvr > Port Cable type type Xcvr vendor part number > length Firmware > 0 GIGE 1000T n/a OEM GLC-T-BF > UNKNOWN WAVELENGTH1 nm - UNKNOWN WAVELENGTH2 nm 0.0 > > [edit] > ario@lab01.juniper# > > I did some further testing Intra-9204 OEM to OEM, Intra-9204 OEM to > Finisar, 9204 OEM to Cisco built-in copper and 9204 Finisar to Cisco built > in copper: > > Intra-9204 Finisar to OEM: > Finisar shut down, OEM does not respond. > OEM shut down, Finisar responds. > > Intra-9204 OEM to OEM: > OEM1 shut down, OEM2 does not respond. > > 9204 OEM to Cisco built-in copper: > 9204 shut down, Cisco responds. > Cisco shut down, 9204 does not respond. > > 9204 Finisar to Cisco built-in copper: > 9204 shut down, Cisco responds. > Cisco shut down, 9204 responds. > > So based on these results, the Finisar seems to behave correctly, and if I > physically disconnect the cable between the two Intra-9204 OEMs, the both > sides in fact stay up. So it looks like this is yet another case of what > Graham reported below. > > > On Jul 19, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Brian Ross <br...@brains-lans.com> wrote: > > > > Jason, > > > > What Vendor do your transceivers show up as in 'show chassis pic > > fpc-slot <x> pic-slot <y> > > > > Ive had bad experiences with 3rd party copper trispeed spfs that don't > > show up as 'Methode Electric.' > > > > Brian > > > > > > On 19 July 2016 at 15:15, Jason Lixfeld <jason-j...@lixfeld.ca> wrote: > >> Hi Graham, > >> > >> These are 3rd party. I was told that by my SE that the platform fully > supports 3rd party optics... not that that really means anything :) > >> > >>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Graham Brown < > juniper-...@grahambrown.info> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Jason, > >>> > >>> Are these SFPs Juniper supplied or third party? Over the years there > have been many documented issues with Base-T SFPs, where you lose physical > and they report as being up. > >>> > >>> IIRC, the Juniper supplied SFPs are ok and I have tested third party > ones that do work, but it's a little hit and miss. > >>> > >>> NB: I have not tested the EX9200. > >>> > >>> HTH, > >>> Graham > >>> > >>> Graham Brown > >>> Twitter - @mountainrescuer > >>> LinkedIn > >>> > >>> On 19 July 2016 at 08:04, Jason Lixfeld <jason-j...@lixfeld.ca> wrote: > >>> Hey there, > >>> > >>> I’m messing around with a lab EX9204 with a EX9200-40x1G-SFP running > 14.2R4.9 > >>> > >>> I’ve got two ports (on the same box) connected together with > 10/100/1000T SFPs in each. > >>> > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# show interfaces | display set > >>> set interfaces ge-0/1/0 unit 0 > >>> set interfaces ge-0/3/0 unit 0 > >>> > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# run show lldp neighbors > >>> Local Interface Parent Interface Chassis Id Port info > System Name > >>> ge-0/1/0 - 30:7c:5e:96:ac:80 ge-0/3/0 > lab01.juniper > >>> ge-0/3/0 - 30:7c:5e:96:ac:80 ge-0/1/0 > lab01.juniper > >>> > >>> [edit] > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# > >>> > >>> I’m noticing that if I disable either interface, it’s partner > interface does not go down. I’m not talking about Ethernet OAM, just > simple layer 1 link detection with copper SFPs. In my past experiences > with various Cisco platforms, this works with no special configuration > required. One thing of interest is that the box thinks the media type is > Fiber. > >>> > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# set interfaces ge-0/1/0 disable > >>> > >>> [edit] > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# commit > >>> commit complete > >>> > >>> [edit] > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# Jul 18 15:56:42.333 2016 lab01.juniper > mib2d[2006]: %DAEMON-4-SNMP_TRAP_LINK_DOWN: ifIndex 558, ifAdminStatus > down(2), ifOperStatus down(2), ifName ge-0/1/0 > >>> > >>> > >>> [edit] > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# run show interfaces ge-0/1/0 > >>> Physical interface: ge-0/1/0, Administratively down, Physical link is > Down > >>> Interface index: 149, SNMP ifIndex: 558 > >>> Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 0, LAN-PHY mode, Speed: > 1000mbps, BPDU Error: None, MAC-REWRITE Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, > Source filtering: Disabled, > >>> Flow control: Enabled, Auto-negotiation: Enabled, Remote fault: > Online, Media type: Fiber > >>> Device flags : Present Running Down > >>> Interface flags: Hardware-Down Down SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000 > >>> Link flags : None > >>> CoS queues : 8 supported, 8 maximum usable queues > >>> Current address: 30:7c:5e:96:a5:65, Hardware address: > 30:7c:5e:96:a5:65 > >>> Last flapped : 2016-07-18 15:56:42 EDT (00:00:11 ago) > >>> Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps) > >>> Output rate : 0 bps (0 pps) > >>> Active alarms : LINK > >>> Active defects : LINK > >>> Interface transmit statistics: Disabled > >>> > >>> Logical interface ge-0/1/0.0 (Index 345) (SNMP ifIndex 570) > >>> Flags: Device-Down SNMP-Traps 0x4004000 Encapsulation: ENET2 > >>> Input packets : 3 > >>> Output packets: 4 > >>> Protocol multiservice, MTU: Unlimited > >>> > >>> [edit] > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# run show interfaces ge-0/3/0 > >>> Physical interface: ge-0/3/0, Enabled, Physical link is Up > >>> Interface index: 169, SNMP ifIndex: 526 > >>> Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 0, LAN-PHY mode, Speed: > 1000mbps, BPDU Error: None, MAC-REWRITE Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, > Source filtering: Disabled, > >>> Flow control: Enabled, Auto-negotiation: Enabled, Remote fault: > Online, Media type: Fiber > >>> Device flags : Present Running > >>> Interface flags: SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000 > >>> Link flags : None > >>> CoS queues : 8 supported, 8 maximum usable queues > >>> Current address: 30:7c:5e:96:a6:af, Hardware address: > 30:7c:5e:96:a6:af > >>> Last flapped : 2016-07-18 14:52:35 EDT (01:04:23 ago) > >>> Input rate : 0 bps (0 pps) > >>> Output rate : 0 bps (0 pps) > >>> Active alarms : None > >>> Active defects : None > >>> Interface transmit statistics: Disabled > >>> > >>> Logical interface ge-0/3/0.0 (Index 348) (SNMP ifIndex 544) > >>> Flags: Up SNMP-Traps 0x4004000 Encapsulation: ENET2 > >>> Input packets : 4 > >>> Output packets: 4 > >>> Protocol multiservice, MTU: Unlimited > >>> > >>> [edit] > >>> ario@lab01.juniper# > >>> > >>> Am I missing something somewhere? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > >>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > _______________________________________________ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp