Out of professional curiosity: how do you implement 

1. Ruby's here docs
2. Ruby's %Q, %q, %x and %r constructs

with any LL(k) or LALR parser generator's grammar language? 

I'm genuinely interested.

Attila.

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On 2010.05.25., at 22:26, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Brian Hurt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think the lesson here is "make your language unparseable, and no one will
>> be able to parse it".  My advice to people designing new languages is to
>> define their grammar in terms of an LALR(1) parser like yacc, javacc, cup,
>> etc.  And to not let shift-reduce or reduce-reduce conflicts in.  One of the
>> big reasons for this is that any language that is parseable sanely in
>> LALR(1) is parseable sanely in just about anything else, the converse is not
>> necessarily true.  Fancier parsers such as LL(k) parsers (for example,
>> Bison) or top-down parsers (parsec, etc.) are great for parsing lanuages
>> that are hard to parse- the idea is to not make your language such.
> 
> This is certainly true for Ruby. There are a few attempts at LALR
> parsers for Ruby, but none of them have been carried through to
> production impls. *All* the current mainstream Ruby implementations
> use the original LL(k) Bison grammar or a port of it to
> platform-specific variants, largely because the language has a lot of
> difficult-to-parse contextual syntax. Of course, a lot of that syntax
> is exactly what people love about Ruby...so it's sometimes a tough
> call.
> 
> - Charlie

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