VK
        Hello! Some answers:

1. That's a good question. I pictured the group icons all being
   the same: a rectangle with the group name displayed within it.
   I suppose for the "standard" groups like "Services" and "PC's"
   and "Mac's" we can create fixed icons. For user-defined groups,
   the text shown inside the rectangle needs to reflect whatever
   the user set it to be. So, we'd have 4 or 5 "fixed icons" plus
   one "arbitrary text" icon.

2. Another good question. I think now that an empty group should
   be shown until the user manually removes it. This way, the user
   can create a group which starts off empty, and then add devices
   to it.

        Thanks!

-Scott

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, mailbox wrote:

>             Hello Scott,
> I have understood the functionality explained by you but still I have some
> questions.
>
> 1.Will there be a single icon for all icon groups? (At present I have
> created different icons for all the groups in the system) I am asking this
> question because if a user adds a new icon group by clicking the "Add new
> button", from where I will get the icon for the newly created group?
>
> 2.The specification states that the empty group icon should not be shown in
> the system. But on creation of the new group it won't contain any devices
> and will not be reachable for the user to add the devices from existing
> group. Please suggest the way to handle this scenario.
>
> Thanks,
> Varsha
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S.C.Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:21 PM
> Subject: Re: GUI topology status + Queries
>
>
> > Varsha:
> > Hello! Some answers and comments:
> >
> > >  1.  How the standard    Property Panel will look like for the
> > > groups? What information will it content    other than Group name,
> > > comment field and  Add New Group  button? Can you    please send
> > > a layout of the all the fields of the standard property panel for    the
> > > group icons and property panel layout for the service icons
> >
> > The group icons Property Panel can just be that simple:
> > an editable Group Name, a Comment field, an "Add New Group" button,
> > a "Remove this Group" button (greyed out unless the group is empty)
> > and at the bottom, an "Okay" and a "Cancel" button pair.
> >
> > For the service icons, I think you're doing two, correct?
> > One for "VNC" and one for "GetEngaged". For the VNC one, the layout
> > of the Property Panel should have 3 PropertyTabs. The mail one
> > should show a scrollable list of machines from the NID that are capable
> > of receiving a VNC connection. A machine in the list can be selected,
> > and a "Connect" button will start the service. The second tab should
> > read "Viewer Settings" and it should look like the existing PropTab
> > in Kaboodle for setting up a viewer. The third tab should read "Server
> > Settings" and it should look like the existing PropTab in Kaboodle for
> > setting up a server. Please let me know if the code behind getting
> > these tabs operational is beyond the scope of this project.
> >
> > For GetEngaged, it only needs two PropertyTabs. The
> > default one should show status: if the user is unregistered, or the
> > registration info if they are, as well as any active connections.
> > The one other tab should look and function exactly the same as the
> > "Remote Network" PropertyTab in the Network Icon.
> >
> > > The  Add New Group     button functionality is not mentioned
> > > clearly in the specification document.    Can you please email me
> > > the detailed functionality of the button?
> >
> > At initial startup, the LAN should be partitioned into at
> > least 2 groups: Services and PC's. If a Printer is detected, it should
> > be put into a "Printers" group. If a Mac is detected, it should be put
> > into a "Mac's" group, and so forth. That is, the initial sorting should
> > be done based on detected "device type" which is a field in the NID.
> > After initial startup, the user may want to move devices
> > in the GUI into different groups, or create new groups. To create a
> > new one, they open the PropPanel of an existing group and click on
> > "Add New Group". The old PropPanel should close, and a new popup
> > window should open with two fields: an editable "New Group" name
> > field, and a "Comments about this New Group" field. The user can edit
> > those entires, then click "Okay" or "Cancel". If Okay, the new group
> > icon should be inserted just beneath the group they used to find the
> > "Add New Group" button. Once the group is created, the user can
> > drag icons in the main GUI to join that group.
> >
> > > Will the swapping of    the group icons swap just the group icons or
> > > will it swap all the device icons    attached to a particular group
> along
> > > with the group icons?  (If the answer to the later part of my
> > > question is yes, then it means just change order of the groups).
> >
> > Yes, just change the order of the groups. So if I move
> > "Mac's" to swap with "PC's", all of the Mac icons move with the Mac
> > group.
> >
> > > 1.Will Arrow keys be used    for the selection of the group icons,
> > > device icons and network icons?
> >
> > Yes. And if an icon is selected and the user hit's <Return>,
> > I suppose the icon's PropPanel should open. And I suppose <Escape>
> > should close the icon as if "Cancel" was hit.
> >
> > >  Do we need the auto scrolling on the navigation by using the arrow
> > > keys?
> >
> > If I have, say, 5 groups and 2 of them are off-screen, I
> > should be able to select the top group and then arrow-down to reach
> > all 5, with the screen scrolling to accomodate.
> >
> > >  The illustration in the    specification document does not cover all
> > > the icon placement scenarios. How    the icons selection should be if
> > > the icons are not vertically aligned?
> >
> > That's a good point. Perhaps this will work: if I've selected
> > a device in the PC Group, and I arrow-down or arrow-right, I should
> > move to the next device in the PC Group. Similarly, arrow-up or arrow-
> > left should move me back up the group. I should stay in the PC-Group
> > until I get to the last PC member, then I should jump to the next group
> > (either the 1st device in the group below if I down-arrow'd, or the
> > first device in the group above if I up-arrow'd). If I'm on the first
> > device in a group and I left-arrow, I should move to the group icon.
> > If I'm on a group icon and I right-arrow I should move to the first
> > device in the group. If I'm on a group and I up-arrow or down-arrow
> > I should move to the next group.
> >
> > I think that works. Please let me know if I can provide more
> > details!
> >
> > cheers,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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