VK:
        Here's how I think Kaboodle should start up:

1. Draw the GUI. Services, Groups, etc.
2. Show the "Detecting Network..." Messagebox.
3. Activate the Gnutella client.
4. Petition the network for a NID to see if another Kaboodle
   instance is already running. This is your most recent
   addition as part of "NID synchronization".
5. If something responds with a valid NID, load that NID
   into the GUI and end.
6. If nothing responds to #4, ping the subnet.
7. OS discovery on what responds.
8. VNC service discovery on devices of type "computer".

        Right now, #4 is running before #1. I think it should
be an easy fix to just adjust this startup order.

-Scott


On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, mailbox wrote:

> Hello Scott,
> I agree that the initial startup is slow. Can you please provide the more
> information regarding the initial GUI contents? Will "Detecting Network..."
> message come up during the startup on *each* time/will it work the way it
> works at present?
>
> Regards,
> Varsha
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: NID synchronization status
>
>
> > VK:
> > One more bug to report: when Kaboodle starts up now, it
> > petitions the LAN for a NID. If it doesn't find one, then it
> > draws the GUI and the MessageBox comes up "Detecting Network...".
> > The problem is that on a slow machine, it can take 2 seconds or
> > so before the GUI comes up.
> > I'd like it to work differently: the first thing should be
> > that the initial GUI comes up, then the "Detecting Network..."
> > MessageBox and *then* Kaboodle petitions the network for a NID.
> > If it doesn't find one, then regular network detection can
> > begin.
> > Thanks for looking into these two things!
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Scott C. Best wrote:
> >
> > > VK
> > > Hello! The changes look good: NID sync'ing is much more
> > > stable right now. Only one hiccup I noticed: when I shutdown
> > > Kaboodle on PC2, the Kaboodle halo for that device in the GUI
> > > on PC1 stays active. In fact, when I shut down the PC2 computer
> > > completely, the icon for PC2 never goes inactive.
> > >
> > > Besides that, it's pretty keen.
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, mailbox wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Scott,
> > > > I have changed the code so that it should work in release mode.
> Please use
> > > > the latest version of the Kaboodle on LAN. The data that we pass is
> through
> > > > the stream and the data may get interpreted in different way with two
> > > > different versions and the application may crash. I have added the
> checks in
> > > > NetworkLocalView.cpp, But Please use the same version everywhere for
> testing
> > > > NID synchronization.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Varsha
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: NID synchronization status
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > VK:
> > > > > Looking at it further...I'm getting a "symbol 'this'
> > > > > not found" error at the same place in AddPC_or_Macintosh{}
> > > > > regardless of whether another Kaboodle instance is running on
> > > > > the LAN or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Scott C. Best wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > VK:
> > > > > > Hello! Am testing the code now. I found an access violation
> > > > > > when I startup yesterday's version of Kaboodle on the same LAN.
> That
> > > > > > is, I start the newest version in debug mode, then startup
> Kaboodle
> > > > > > on another PC using yesterday's release version. I don't expect
> the
> > > > > > old version to work, of course, but we can't have the new version
> > > > > > crash that easily. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Details are these: debugger takes me to NetworkLocalView.cpp,
> > > > > > into AddPC_or_Macintosh{}. The values for fields beneath
> m_pNIDTree
> > > > > > are mostly all "CXX0030: Error: expression cannot be evaluated".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since we're now doing a pretty major overhaul to the NID
> > > > > > exchange mechanism, it seems like a good time to include some NID
> > > > > > validity checking as well. Older versions of Kaboodle do not have
> to
> > > > > > work, but they should not crash the newer versions. Going forward,
> we
> > > > > > may have to change the nature of the NID again, so now seems like
> a
> > > > > > good to to fortify that code against obvious format-related
> crashes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, mailbox wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Scott,
> > > > > > > I have added the code for NID synchronization in wincvs. Please
> test
> > > > the
> > > > > > > same.
> > > > > > > This is implemented according to the your suggestion. When
> kaboodle
> > > > starts
> > > > > > > it queries for the NID on the same LAN and if finds the NID it
> > > > discards its
> > > > > > > own NID stored in the registry and uses the new NID. If it does
> not
> > > > find any
> > > > > > > NID from the LAN it uses it's old NID from the registry if any
> or does
> > > > the
> > > > > > > NAN discovery.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The NID synchronization works with
> > > > > > > 1. Kaboodle startup
> > > > > > > 2. On device property changes like name change,
> > > > > > > 3. On drag and drop
> > > > > > > 4. On group addition and deletion
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please suggest the other scenarios if you find any.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Varsha.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:44 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: NID synchronization status
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > VK:
> > > > > > > > Great! Thanks for the update.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Scott
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, mailbox wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello Scott,
> > > > > > > > > I have almost finished the NID synchronization coding. I am
> > > > testing it.
> > > > > > > > > I will add it to wincvs as soon as finish the testing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > Varsha
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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