Hello Scott,

I have added the code for Zebedee (points 3 and 4 of the specifications for
zebedee integration) in the Wincvs. At present the zebedee path and tightvnc
paths are hardcode in the code. I will change once you finish your
preliminary testing.

Please install the tightvnc in C:\program files\tightVNC and zebedee in
c:\program files\zebedee. Please enable the "Allow loopback connections" for
tightvnc servers in order to make VNC servers visible in some of cases
listed below.



The zebedee works for pc1-- >pc4 , pc1-- >pc3,  pc2-- >pc3, pc2-- >pc4,
pc3-- >pc2, pc3-- >pc1



Regrads,

Varsha

----- Original Message -----

From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 11:47 PM
Subject: [Kaboodle-devel] Kaboodle VPN design review


>
> Heyaz. This email is meant for all of the people on
> the development list. It's an overview of how I see the "VPN"
> capability of Kaboodle working, and I need to know if any
> of you see a problem.
>
> After sleeping on the idea, I've come to the decision
> that utilizing the ZeBeDee utility is the best idea for version
> 1.0. It may make sense to revisit this decision later on when
> more resources are available. But given the requirements, the
> budget, and our existing capabilities, it'd be crazy *not*
> to use a utility as stable and well supported as ZeBeDee. Put
> another way, it's ready now and better than what we could come
> up with in any reasonable timeframe (sorry for any hurt feelings
> here...no offense intended).
>
> Unfortunately...I am not sure how to best implement
> the capability I need using ZeBeDee. Let me describe my target
> need first, and then offer some ideas. What I need is this:
>
>    PC1       PC2                             PC3        PC4
>    -------------  FW1 <=> Internet <=> FW2   --------------
>        LAN1                                       LAN2
>
> In this model, PC1, PC2 and PC3 are all running Kaboodle.
> LAN1 and LAN2 are behind firewalls, and only a small handful (I
> think it's doable with 1, but it's easier with 2) of TCP ports are
> opened to PC2 and PC3 (PC1 and PC4 are not externally accessible
> at all -- two firewalls direct all incoming Kaboodle-related data
> for LAN1 to PC2 and for LAN2 to PC3). Presume that PC2 and PC3 are
> connected using the VPN capability that we're now talking about (so
> both ZeBeDee client and server binaries are available to all of the
> Kaboodle instances). PC4 is not running Kaboodle, nor ZeBeDee, but
> it is running a VNC server. Given all that as background, I need the
> following to work:
>
> 1. Two users on PC2 and PC3 can discover each other using the
>    existing capabilities of Kaboodle (which now work).
>
> 2. Once IP addresses are discovered, PC2 and PC3 connect with
>    each other in some manner. Let's call this piece the
>    "Control Channel". Right now, it with some legacy code
>    that we custom-developed. Going forward, we may find it
>    better to use ZeBeDee for this as well. We support one
>    authentication means today; we can add others as we see
>    fit (or as the users insist).
>
> 3. Once the control channel is established, PC2 and PC3 exchange
>    their NID with each other. Because of this exchange, two
>    things need to happen: first, the GUI in both LAN1 and LAN2
>    display the VPN connection state. This works. Second, the
>    Kaboodle services (ie, VNC and File Transfer today, other
>    things tomorrow) must recognize the remote machines as valid
>    "targets". For example, if PC4 is a VNC server on LAN2,
>    then Kaboodle on PC3 can administer a VNC session from PC3
>    to PC4. We need to extend this "target awareness" so that
>    the Kaboodle instances on LAN1 also recognize PC4 as a valid
>    target for a VNC connection. The information needed to create
>    this awareness is definitely in the NID.
>
> 4. Once the NIDs are exchanged and the target awareness is made
>    available to all of the services, I should now be able to VNC
>    from PC1 to PC4 using a combination of Kaboodle tunnels and
>    the ZeBeDee connection (see below).
>
> 5. Importantly, if I am VNC'ing from PC1 to PC4 using this
>    capability, I should be able to start a Kaboodle file transfer
>    from PC2 to PC3 without interrupting the VNC connection.
>    This, I think, will be the trickiest part.
>
> Ideally, this "VPN connection" is secure as possible, so
> it is secured between PC1 and PC2 using Kaboodle and between PC2
> and PC3 using ZeBeDee (I don't think we can go from PC2 to PC4
> using all ZeBeDee...but if anyone sees a way please suggest).
>
> The VNC data flow would look like this: A VNC client on PC1
> connects to localhost port 100 where Kaboodle on PC1 is listening.
> Kaboodle on PC1 sends this data to port 200 on PC2. On PC2, Kaboodle
> is listening to port 200. Kaboodle on PC2 also instructs a ZeBeDee
> client on PC2 to listen to port 201 on the loopback interface.
> Kaboodle takes the data from port 200, decrypts it using the
> existing VNC tunneling capabilities, and pushes that data into
> port 201 on the loopback interface. The ZeBeDee client collects
> this data from TCP port 201 on the loopback interface of PC2 and
> sends it to the ZeBeeDee server on PC3 which is listening to port
> 300 (it knows to listen to port 300 because Kaboodle on PC3 told
> it to). The ZeBeDee server forwards the data it receives on TCP port
> 300 on PC3 to TCP port 5902 on PC4. The ZeBeDee server knows to
> forward the data like this, because the ZeBeDee client on PC2 told
> it to do so when it connected (eg, the ZeBeDee client had a kickoff
> which looks like "zebedee -b 127.0.0.1 PC3 201:PC4:5902"). The
> ZeBeDee client pn PC2 knew to use port 5902 because Kaboodle on
> PC3 had this information in its NID after running VNC server
> discovery on LAN2. The VNC server receives the data, and the
> return path is symmetric.
>
> I think that covers it. Feedback welcome!
>
> cheers,
> Scott
>
>
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