On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:33:12 +0200 (CEST) Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:50:41 +0100 (BST) > James Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I really really hate the build system :-( > > Some friends told me about scons... do you know it? I agree the build system is somewhat cumbersome. However, in defense of our build system, it does a good job of not requiring end users to install additional tools to build Kaffe. On a stripped system, one should only need a basic Unix shell and utilities, a c compiler and linker, and the core development libraries (eg. libc, gmp, zlib) to get a working virtual machine. If people can get a working JVM going early on in the bootstrapping process, that enables them to use a huge number of Java-based build tools (eg. ant). The tradeoff is that in order to do this, we developers have to do more work, eg. autoconf, automake, libtool, etc. It makes life easier for the end users though, ultimately. Also, by using those tools, we can help to improve them for the rest of the free software community. Unfortunately, several more build-time dependencies have snuck in than I'd like, eg. we need GNU tar due to some long filenames, and I think we have some gcc'isms. I think there is room to add additional tools to the build process that are meant to be used in "maintainer mode" only. eg. I'd like to use ant and XSLT in the documentation generation process. BTW, I'm a big fan of ant -- instead of trying to be a language, it just concentrates on defining the core tasks that form the basis of the build system, but still leaves the option open to define additional tasks using Java code. Of course, ant requires a JVM to run, so it's of little use in bootstrapping a JVM. Being able to cross-compile Kaffe is important as well. Cheers, - Jim _______________________________________________ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
