https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348550
--- Comment #6 from miklos <mtm...@freemail.hu> --- Created attachment 95863 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=95863&action=edit present windows terminals.png Meanwhile I upgraded my system, and I got KDE5. I can no longer reproduce the above problem with grid layouts. I also found out what caused the weird layouts on the screenshots. Steam creates popup dialogs for group events (always on the current desktop), that are invisible, until I specifically alt-tab to them (so they tend to amass). These don't show up in present windows, but they are accounted for. Now I disabled focus stealing prevention to see if they keep being created as invisible. However, I can still force the natural layout to produce weird results with only 3 terminal windows. The screenshot was created with 3 terminals in the top left corner, one of them maximized vertically, and one of the small ones moved down a bit. If I move at least one of them out of that corner, the present layout gets much better. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.