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--- Comment #104 from mc_ringbea...@yahoo.com ---
I just created account just so I could post this comment. I have used virtually
every desktop UI since the early 1980's. I've held virtually every
tech/software job in the past 40+ years, from live phone support to VP at
Fortune 50 tech company-developer, teacher, technical writer, manager, sales,
marketing, you name it. My observations: The evaluation process for user input
on the KDE project, like SO many other decisions in Linux, is broken. Too much
power in one person or small group of persons ("If David agrees..."). Linux
prides itself on being the alternative to 'BIG Brother" Microsoft and to some
extent Apple as well, the 'have it your way' OS for the rest of us. Yet the
Linux world in many ways is just monolithic; you can't have it both ways, you
can't on one hand try to be the 'garage' OS that make techies happy to tinker
and use CLI all day and tweak till the sun goes down, and then also tout being
viable desktop alternative to the masses a la Windows and macOS. This
move/copy/link issues is a perfect example of why Linux in general, as
currently developed, will never be a mainstream alternative to the masses.
Inconsistenices, too many distros, too many UI's, fragmentation that is touted
as 'freedom of choice' but really just hinders adoption.
This 'feature' of constant prompting 'move, copy , link' made me STOP using KDE
and if it matters to anyone at the project, made me stop recommending it to
newbies wanting to get into the Linux world. Why? Virtually everyone (probably
in the thousands) of anyone I've encountered who gets introduced to KDE for the
first time, whether they come from Windows, MacOS or other Distros, the first
comment/complaint I hear was "How do I turn off this move/copy/link popup?"
Seriously, 20+ years this bug has been open?? Then to hear comments like "the
code is so old, no one understands it well enough to change it" or "David needs
to agree"? When I tell newbies it can't be turned off, the next question is,
"Is there another UI I can use?" Looking PRETTY only goes so far. After awhile
no one cares about the color of the title bar or shape of the buttons.
Usability, when your livelihood depends on how efficiently you get your work
done, is what matters. An extra 100-1000 mouse clicks a day to answer the same
prompt over and over and over and over...
I usually recommend GNOME or Cinnamon now instead of KDE. 95+% of the people I
introduce Linux too come from Windows or MacOS, this isn't about religion, it's
about facts and understanding the real world. Whether the Windows way is 'right
or wrong' is irrelevant, that is the yard stick. If you are selling cars in a
country where the steering wheel is on the left, you don't market a car with
the wheel on the right. And to extend the analogy, saying Ford, General Motors,
Toyota, have it on the left doesn't make it the 'right' way, is irrelevant.
the macOS default makes the most sense, drag between locations on the same
logical device, it's a move (logical, for example a different folder on same
mount point). It's the same box, just moving it around, same ship deck, just
moving the deck chairs. Drag to a different logical device, it's a
copy...different box, different ship.
This bug is marked 'Resolved' 'Fixed'...I just fired up Fedora 42 switched to
KDE plasma 6.4.2 on Wayland. Same behavior...? Where is the option?
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