https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387931
Mateusz Kowalewski <mateusz.f.kowalew...@gmail.com> changed:
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--- Comment #25 from Mateusz Kowalewski <mateusz.f.kowalew...@gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Laurent Montel from comment #9)
> (In reply to Kamil Dudka from comment #8)
> > Laurent, could you please stop removing or hiding kmail's features which you
> > think are not useful or important?
> >
> > Those features were originally implemented for a reason and kmail's users
> > have been successfully using them for quite some time. If you keep the
> > current pace of downgrading user experience with each subsequent release of
> > kmail, you are going loose existing users of kmail for no real benefit.
> >
> > You should really focus on fixing existing bugs instead of removing existing
> > stable features that nobody complains about.
>
> Just a question:
> Are you the kmail maintainer ?
> no I don't think.
> I am.
>
> So if I think that it's better to reduce menu or hide not useful feature for
> enduser it's my choice.
>
> You work on redhat so make your work as packager and stop to cry.
>
> Thanks.
Dear maintainer,
There is another problem with your "choice" here: The documentation did not
reflect this change! That's an absolute no go!
I'm currently looking for some other bug in Kmail/Akonadi and reading the
mailing-list archives. I discovered this bug report by chance now.
Some time ago I (as an end-user) needed to look up the message structure of one
mail. I was very upset as I saw the menu entry I knew was there for years was
gone. I tired to "google" for this issue but did not find this bug report then.
I also did not find any information about a removal of this feature. The
documentation says it is still in the menu! I thought it is a very strange bug.
I even started to look for the relevant code in Kmail (but did not push this
endeavor any further than out of lack of time).
In the end I exported the raw mail an used some tools on it to extract the part
of the mail I was interested in. Looking into this issue and coming up with a
workaround was a waste of several hours!
"Hiding" or removing features "for power users" is a think I would expect form
the Gnome people. But never ever from a KDE app! Please don't do something like
that again!
There are some usability standards under KDE now for years: Everything you can
find in the GUI is also available as a toolbar. But not the other way around!
Till said: "'toolbar' \subseteq 'menu' is a typical pattern". I think it's not
only a "typical pattern" it's how things work all over KDE apps since most
likely pre V1.0 versions. (Maybe I don't recall correctly the version but it
works like that since "ever")! It's not anything you could make a "choice"
about.
You just wasted the time of several people by making a "choice" like that. But
there was no gain whatsoever in doing so! KDE isn't for people who like
"hidden" or striped down features.
Thank you for being now aware that with "choices" like that you will annoy a
lot of long time KDE users.
Best regards,
Mateusz
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