https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399375

--- Comment #21 from Martin Flöser <mgraess...@kde.org> ---
(In reply to Tyson Tan from comment #18)
> Just let use know about it.

My priority? Improving the product and the ecosystem. But to be clear: my
opinion doesn't matter any more. I stepped down as maintainer. I give my
feedback as an expert in the area and I have strong opinions about features
that matter to me.

So why are I against just changing the default and living in the Windows
future? Because it doesn't fix the problem. It doesn't make Krita work with any
window manager using this shortcut. It even doesn't fix it for Plasma. It would
mean two years till this gets to users (Ubuntu 20.04) and would only affect new
installations. Existing users would not be migrated anyway - we never do that.
And even then for any user re-enabling the feature and any distribution
re-enabling the feature (especially for such hardcore X11 features that does
happen) it would still be broken in Krita. The only way to get this fixed in
Plasma is by removing the feature overall. And there I have to disappoint you:
this feature is too useful to get dropped. It would create a major shitstorm if
we would drop it and we would deserve this shitstorm. If you look around this
feature is very often reported as the most missing feature in Windows.

Furthermore we are at the edge to Wayland and that changes everything. Also how
this feature works. This gives us the chance to improve it in ways that make it
work for everyone. I already asked about the pen. On Wayland that would be the
default: alt + mouse is the only way to trigger the feature. Other input
devices such as touch and pen are ignored (granted we don't have pen support
yet). Furthermore applications can temporarily confine the mouse pointer which
would be a useful feature to use by Krita and there we can think about to
ignore the modifier mouse actions (I just tested and we don't do that yet, but
that's something we should change).

So lets work on improving the situation and stop thinking in black and white
where the feature exists or doesn't exist. We can improve and we can help you
as well. You just need to ask. Just look how fast David fixed the breeze issue
after it was brought to us. This is something I noticed with Krita very often.
Complaints after years that things have not been working as expected, but it
was never brought to us (sometimes code was forked or features of Plasma hard
disabled without talking to us at all). If you need help with X11 we can help.
Heck my notebook has wacom support and I bought it with the thought of being
able to test Krita and help getting it to Wayland.

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