https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396675

--- Comment #10 from ocumo <kxk-ocumoatbugs...@lugosys.com> ---
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Argumentum ad hominem


"A fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at
hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute
of the person making the argument, (...), rather than attacking the substance
of the argument itself." (source: wikipedia).


Q.E.D.


None of what you say challenges the substance of the argument itself. Your
intention is solely to offend and punish me because don't like the overwhelming
argumentation I presented.

According to you, my "offense" seems to be verbosity.  But instead of
addressing that as a criticism negative or constructively, you opt to
demonstrate irrational hatred and distorted reality. In your own words, which
unfortunately disprove and discredit yourself:

"how you messed up your system"

...which is a lie, without any substance and disproved largely, as you have
several times demonstrated it with your own words. It only intends to hurt me,
as a person: "That guy messed up his system. What a ..."  It is not
substantiated in any reasoning that leads unequivocally to that.   Or: can you
explain, why is that a logical conclusion?

  Ergo: Ad hominem.

"I am closing all reports that you made that are still open."

...just to "hurt me", not because they were fixed.  So "let's punish him by
hurting our project and the users!".

Brilliant strategy.  I will wait until you realize you are not "hurting" me. 
You are hurting your project, your users and your own image and reputation as
leader of a relevant project for a big community.  Not me.   I am still
waiting: don't you see it yet? I have time. What about now?

  Ergo: Ad hominem.


The problem does exist, not in "my system".  It is a bug affecting your product
and your users, like it or not.  Users less technically savvy and less
resourceful than myself.  Forget about me as a person.  I am not relevant to
you.  Let alone the multiple experiments and evidence that can be read by
everybody.  Just tell them to read your words in your comment here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392251#c24 . Among many others.

But you are trying to deflect from that.  By insult.  By diminishing me as an
incompetent user that "messes up his system", although you have said the exact
opposite many times.

Deflection does works well as a strategy, but only with non intelligent,
ignorant people, as any politician will tell you.   But you have revealed your
true position, although without justification or honest reasoning: "This is not
my bug, it's somebody else's, I won't fix it."   Good for you.   Bad for krita.

Not being right, makes you explode, so:  Ad hominem.  "Let's insult this guy to
scare others that might come like him in the future".

Bad news. You don't get to dictate what I do, what I say or where I say it. 
Anything.  That is not how the real world works.   bugs.kde.org is not your
private property, neither the Internet.

Equally grotesque would be me ordering you to refrain from insulting me
personally and to stop believing you can give me orders or instructions, or
order you to refrain from using fallacies to "argument" against concrete,
objective technical issues.  I would be delusional if I would think that would
work.

I will keep demonstrating that I am verbose with very good reasons, if and
whenever I want, and you can keep demonstrating what you have demonstrated so
concise but eloquently (thanks for that, really).

If you would step down of such arrogant position for a little while you might
find that there might be others reading your "argumentation" and find it a bit
dictatorial and too obviously conveniently deviating the conversation from
technically demonstrated issues.   But is that how you solve issues in life?
Insulting those who disagree with you or that you have offended and bullied
previously?


I have no idea what makes you think you command masses, but whatever it is,
.... Well, with ignorant, low intelligence audience, fallacy, manipulation and
bullying do work like a charm, I give you that. Those eventually end up
following and obeying.  With intelligent, highly educated people, doesn't work.

So, no, I won't "obey your commands" or be intimidated by lies, attempt of
bullying, threats and personal insult.

Ad hominem.  Shame on you.

Is your next move to elevate the insulting to major cursing or lies to deflect
the substance of the issue?  Really you need help, at various levels.   An
apology wouldn't hurt you and could give better results, improving a little bit
the shot you gave on your own foot and in krita project today.

A person like that, who doesn't accept any criticism and uses bullying,
fallacy, and personal attack as means of terminating a technical disagreement,
is seriously incapable of normal, intelligent interaction with highly educated,
intelligent audience.

Q.E.D.




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