https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310881
Kübi <kisku...@freemail.hu> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kisku...@freemail.hu --- Comment #17 from Kübi <kisku...@freemail.hu> --- Hi All, I've found the conflict on Hungarian layout (hu): a) I use Alt+<numbers> for tab switching on every app that is capable. b) System settings -> shortcuts -> global shortcuts -> kwin -> Walk through windows of current application, defaults to Alt + ` Walk through windows of current application (reverse), defaults to Alt + ~ So a quick workaround is to remove those two system hotkeys. Thus I can understand why Alt+1 and Alt+7 were the two erroneous key combinations: they are the tilde and grave on Hungarian layout. AFAICS the issue has nothing related to "composing keys" or "dead keys". Slovenian layout is similar, and Spanish has asciitilde on Alt+4. Maybe there are other issues with keyboard event handling too. Under the conflicting circumstances, neither the KWin "Walk through windows" function nor the application's user shortcut works, which is strange for me. Though some quick UI refresh can be seen triggered by Alt+1 and Alt+7. Maybe KWin at low levels has been triggered, without knowning much about layouts, intercepting the keystrokes for some reason, even if grave comes from Alt + 7, which does not really mean Alt + grave? And later another component gets only grave, without Alt, so eventually the "Walk through windows" function will not run? Another question: how should we configure default shortcuts and differend keyboard layouts in general? Thoughts: - Modifiers can be used to compose a shortcut, from the system configuration point of view; while they can be used to compose characters, from the layout design point of view. - Logically 2 kinds of shortcuts seems showing up to me: - "movable", e.g. Meta+Q: Activities, no matter where "Q" lays on the current layout. - "positional", e.g. - this case: Alt + "the key under ESC", - this case: Alt + <number> - '[', ']', '<', '>', '+', '-' (or rather '=' instead of '+') "Positional" will often has the "modifier problem". Special fun: the two conflicting shortcuts serve absolutely similar purposes: a) switching between tabs of an application b) switching between windows of an application :) Hi All, I've found the conflict on Hungarian layout (hu): a) I use Alt+<numbers> for tab switching on every app that is capable. b) System settings -> shortcuts -> global shortcuts -> kwin -> Walk through windows of current application, defaults to Alt + ` Walk through windows of current application (reverse), defaults to Alt + ~ So a quick workaround is to remove those two system hotkeys. Thus I can understand why Alt+1 and Alt+7 were the two erroneous key combinations: they are the tilde and grave on Hungarian layout. AFAICS the issue has nothing related to "composing keys" or "dead keys". Slovenian layout is similar, and Spanish has asciitilde on Alt+4. Maybe there are other issues with keyboard event handling too. Under the conflicting circumstances, neither the KWin "Walk through windows" function nor the application's user shortcut works, which is strange for me. Though some quick UI refresh can be seen triggered by Alt+1 and Alt+7. Maybe KWin at low levels has been triggered, without knowning much about layouts, intercepting the keystrokes for some reason, even if grave comes from Alt + 7, which does not really mean Alt + grave? And later another component gets only grave, without Alt, so eventually the "Walk through windows" function will not run? Another question: how should we configure default shortcuts and differend keyboard layouts in general? Thoughts: - Modifiers can be used to compose a shortcut, from the system configuration point of view; while they can be used to compose characters, from the layout design point of view. - Logically 2 kinds of shortcuts seems showing up to me: - "movable", e.g. Meta+Q: Activities, no matter where "Q" lays on the current layout. - "positional", e.g. - this case: Alt + "the key under ESC", - this case: Alt + <number> - '[', ']', '<', '>', '+', '-' (or rather '=' instead of '+') "Positional" will often has the "modifier problem". Special fun: the two conflicting shortcuts serve absolutely similar purposes: a) switching between tabs of an application b) switching between windows of an application :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.