https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457779

            Bug ID: 457779
           Summary: Kde Plasmashell Crashes Sometimes Unrecoverable by
                    Reboot Even
           Product: plasmashell
           Version: 5.24.6
          Platform: Manjaro
                OS: Linux
            Status: REPORTED
          Severity: crash
          Priority: NOR
         Component: generic-crash
          Assignee: plasma-b...@kde.org
          Reporter: nssz4...@anonaddy.me
  Target Milestone: 1.0

SUMMARY
***
NOTE: If you are reporting a crash, please try to attach a backtrace with debug
symbols.
See
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports
***


STEPS TO REPRODUCE
Random Crashes, worse in Wayland but sometimes in X11

OBSERVED RESULT
Sometimes plasmashell (the application toolbar especially) will freeze and have
to be restart with killall plasmashell && kstart5 plasmashell but if its given
enough time it seems it will crash completely and need to be started with just
kstart5 plasmashell. In Wayland this is so bad its almost unusable, in X11 it
happens occasionally but it seems like some of the crashes appear to handle
themselves and you can see plasmashell restart. 

Sometimes however if its bad enough kstart5 plasmashell wont even work and will
only show 

$ killall plasmashell && kstart5 plasmashell
Omitting both --window and --windowclass arguments is not recommended
$ kf.plasma.quick: Applet preload policy set to 1

and not restart and often times even rebooting wont fix it and it just has to
wait to process itself out


EXPECTED RESULT
No crashes, and better handling of crashes

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma:  Manjaro
KDE Plasma Version: 5.24.6
KDE Frameworks Version:  5.96.0
Qt Version: 5.15.5

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
I know linux well enough to get around but Im not a regular KDE debugger 

Ive installed Debuginfod like it says here in arch
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports,
however I am not familar with how to use this tool for debugging and the page
it links to https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Debugging/Getting_traces seems
like techno babble to me. 

Im not even sure if this program is for getting backtraces or if its used with
other programs since its been described as "an HTTP file server that serves
debugging resources to debugger-like tools" If someone guides me or gives me a
more step by step guide on how to get useful backtraces for crashes for
plasmashell that would be helpful. I am just a regular user that doesn't use
debugging tools regularly.

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