https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461085

--- Comment #9 from Markus Wernig <pub...@wernig.net> ---
(In reply to tcanabrava from comment #7)

> Please take in consideration the time I did put on the plugin system, to
> not say things like "I was fortunate to not realize that the plugins
> exist", I understand that some frustration can exist, but understand also
> that this is helping a lot of people that were used to have a visual aid to
> ssh in other systems - such as windows - to migrate to konsole and linux in
> general.

Dear @tcanabrava

I did not want to belittle your work. I am sure the plugin was developped with
much expertise, diligence and the best intentions.
I also see your point (potentially alleviating the switch to Linux for users of
graphical SSH managers like putty or SecureCRT).

But is there not also the point of long-standing Linux users who do not require
such alleviation? Is it fair to force them to use the plugin even if they did
not choose in any way to install it?

I personally do not think so. Users should have a choice, which software they
want to use.

SSH is a central part of my everyday work, and I choose to manage it in a way
that best fits my needs. Since the sshmanager plugin cannot be configured to do
the same, I do not want to use it.

But that is currently not possible.

Mostly, because you chose to integrate it so tightly with Konsole. It even
parses the command line and acts upon that (which, by the way, is something
neither putty nor SecureCRT have ever done - and rightly so). I fail to see how
that would help any Linux novice, on the contrary. In the best of cases it will
make them get used to a way of managing SSH that exists nowhere else and will
be useless to them once they switch to another terminal emulator or desktop
system. In the worst of cases it will interfere with what they want to do and
drive them away.

Have you ever considered a less intrusive way of integrating sshmanager with
Konsole? I think if it were more of a standalone application (that could still
use the konsole framework, profiles etc.), it would be even more useful - to
Linux novices and existing users alike.

For the time being, I stand with my request for a way to disable the plugin.
This does not mean, however, that I do not appreciate the great work that you
and the other KDE devs are doing!

Currently, I have to do this after every Plasma update: 
chmod 700 /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/konsoleplugins/konsole_sshmanagerplugin.so
(Which, by the way, also disables the Ctrl-Shift-F2 shortcut).

Best regards
Markus

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