https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168

Andrew Shark <ash...@linuxcomp.ru> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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            Summary|gwenview ignores settings   |Add a setting to not follow
                   |in initial sort order       |sorting as in Dolphin when
                   |                            |Gwenview started by image
                   |                            |click

--- Comment #21 from Andrew Shark <ash...@linuxcomp.ru> ---
The current title of the bug "gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order"
confuses people. We are talking about two separate issues here. The first is
that somebody wants to disable the thing that gwenview follows the order in
dolphin (even currently partly broken, see Bug 466836). I will rename current
bug to keep track on this problem, because OP wanted that.
The second is not related to Dolphin at all, about not applied sorting when
entering to folder from Home page - Bug 464959

@JoostR
> for somebody who hardly uses Dolphin (like me) it makes no sense at all that 
> Gwenview settings are somehow overriden by it.
Generally, users expect Gwenview to follow the sorting order of the place from
where it was opened (Dolphin).

> Typically I find my most recently edited presentation folder in Dolphin in a 
> 'sorted by date' view, open it in Gwenview and want my images sorted by name 
> as set in the Gwenview settings.
You said you hardly use Dolphin, but still you use it to open your folder. If
you do not need Dolphin, why don't you just launch Gwenview from start menu? It
has a Home page, which also has a Recent folders.

@Scandrof
> Gwenview following Dolphin's sort order is also causing a lot of problems for 
> me. I often use a bash script to select a random image folder & open the 
> first picture in Gwenview.
And what is the problem then? You open first image in your random folder and it
is opened in Gwenview.

> Maybe an option could be added to Gwenview's settings to give users a choice 
> between following Dolphin's sort order or keeping Gwenview independent of 
> Dolphin?
Yes.

@Freddy Vejen
> but when I start gwenview and choose a folder containing picture files, 
> gwenview does not sort the files by name, but by date.
See 464959.

@Robin Bankhead
> It doesn't make any sense for Gwenview to revert to obeying Dolphin's 
> ordering instead of persisting the ordering chosen in its own UI, across 
> multiple direct launches (i.e. not from within Dolphin).
> Gwenview should have its own ordering setting, but able to be overridden on 
> invocation (which the onus then is on Dolphin to do). This might be of 
> benefit for other external apps calling Gwenview also.
As said above, yes there should be an option to not follow dolphin sorting when
clicked image. Also, it will not be really "following Dolphin", but "following
.directory file".

@Andrew + @Thomas Capricelli
> For me the annoying case is very simple and not related with Dolphin at all.
See 464959.

@Christoph Cullmann + @Thomas Capricelli
Depending on the way you launch, see one of all mentioned bugs.

@JoostR
> it should perhaps simply be integrated into Dolphin or be installed as a 
> component of it
I am not shure. What if you want to open several images and go to another
folder? What if you want to do some basic things like image rotation?

@Jörg
> Gwenview should not depend on any setting in a file manager.
As said above, it is not a Dolphin setting. It is a setting from .directory
file.

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