https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469431
jesse <jvap...@yahoo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|DOWNSTREAM |FIXED --- Comment #43 from jesse <jvap...@yahoo.com> --- As a fellow user for almost a decade now, I do not consider this software as you described. "kmm is not for the masses, it is an experimental tool with no visible development, non existent documentation and "mail lists". As far as I can tell the software is of high quality - the reason I came to this platform from the others you mentioned. Everyone is always open to use whatever software fits their needs though. Free or paid options are available. The paid options come with some form of guarantee or Service Level Agreements so you can base your expectations. This software is developed by volunteers, it is provided free of charge. Developers from all over the world contribute, as they have time, to its support. They are all friendly, great developers and very supportive. From what I can tell, anyone is welcomed to use it. It has served many of users for many years(like me) and I have looked at the competitors. I have tried, most of, them and still continue to prefer this software. I believe there are two things we should consider: 1. The way that the portfolio handles the issue, is behind the scenes in the code itself, which is why you feel you did not have to do anything as a user. They fixed it and you upgraded at some point in time. With this approach you rely on the developers to 'fix' the issue. Luckily, somehow they must have noticed the issue and fixed it. I am not sure what the update cadence is for that software. I am not a developer but from what I've heard in mailing list and chats, the KMyMoney software is undergoing a major update. This may have caused KMyMoney updates to be further apart than usual. 2. As stated before, KMyMoney at least gives you the option to fix the issue yourself. It is in fact more flexible than the portfolio tool. As a user, you can modify how the quote is retrieved and when a volunteer developer finds time, they can update the code and make the fix available out of the box. I will agree that as users, many times we just want it done for us. I also do not like spending hours trying to research how to change the parser to make it work. This also leads to many google searches and testing of many different suggestions from people on the internet. I also think that maybe, as a way to mitigate some of this, it would be helpful if there was a page where official documentation could be kept with the most up-to-date community known method to retrieve the quotes. In my experience, other software offers this type of documentation but, it does get out of date. Anyone who finds a solution would need to go there to update and share with the community. Thus I see KMyMoney as providing two advantages: 1. the user community is able to update the command to retrieve the text themselves, no need to wait for developers. 2. the user community can wait until a new version is released that includes the fix as a default. To me this is very impressive to have such flexibility. It does not mean frustrations will not occur when it breaks. As a user, if I expect the software to 'fix' it for me, then I will just need to wait for a solution to be provided in the form of the code,( and hopefully the software is not undergoing major changes that may delay the release of new version at the time). For reference it appears that this is the bug report for portfolio app for when the yahoo API(html scrapper) broke for them: https://github.com/portfolio-performance/portfolio/issues/3302 This was the comments in their issue log: "Something between. Yahoo’s data providers could for instance temporarily stop the delivery , Yahoo could adjust their API interface or implement a new technology to prevent content grabbing. On the other hand, you get what you paid for :wink:" -- https://forum.portfolio-performance.info/t/price-incorrect-in-statement-of-assets/23806/3 I think this shows that both software are: - pulling the data from the same place, in the same way(html scraping). KMyMoney offers two ways for it to be fixed. - experience the same issue. Just because you did not experience the issue yourself, does not mean the issue did not occur with that software. They were able to push the fix in rapidly but it still happened. - Both software are susceptible to Yahoo changing the website breaking their application. Thus, I do not agree with the statement you made. The quality and abilities of the tools are on par if not KMyMoney provides a more flexible solution allowing users to fix the issue even between releases. I am not sure how fast Portfolio-Performance responded to the issue, but they were definitely able to push the fix in to the app download package sooner. I am glad though that this post came up. It is the way open source software gets better. There are many options out there but KMyMoney is my preference. The quotes is probably the most fragile part of it due to the dependencies on external web pages. I personally enjoy recommending and helping new users onboard to KMyMoney. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.