https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384782

--- Comment #42 from sethbots...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to tqd8 from comment #41)
> (In reply to sethbotstar from comment #40)
> > I think it'd be great if the Entries in the settings had no
> > effect on how the icons were actually ordered in the panel,
> > it's just a convenient way to see what group it's under,
> > why should it have any effect on the actual order?
> 
> If there's manual re-ordering, then there's no need for groups anymore.
> 
> How often does one actually need to re-arrange tray icons on the fly? I
> think accidentally dragging a tiny icon (intending to simply click it) is a
> much more likely/frequent occurrence than purposely dragging one.
> 
> If you need to configure tray icons, there's already only one place you can
> configure *when* an icon is shown/hidden -- the Entries list. So I'd say
> that, if you want to configure the *order* too, it makes sense to have that
> in the same place, rather than having the configuration split between the
> settings and the tray itself.
> 
> I suppose draggable tray icons could be a toggleable option if users really
> want it though. Just might complicate the implementation a good bit.

Maybe it would, anyhow, the absolute best option in my opinion is being able to
manually rearrange the order and have the list be a way to sort the icons
*exclusively* in the entries list, I am genuinely completely confounded as to
why how it works now is even how it works? Like, maybe most people don't have
an opinion on it whatsoever, but I do personally think it would be an almost
objective improvement to be able to manually order the icons.

I have no idea how complicated icons you could drag would actually be, but even
just having the ability to change the order of the icons at all would be nice.
As far as I have seen for years, is that the answer is that you can't change
the order unless you change the names of the items and put them into different
groups, and I have no idea how somebody would even change this behavior. The
documentation regarding the system tray could maybe be more in depth or
something, I don't really know.

I know that you can change where the expander arrow is by modifying the
main.qml file and literally just moving it to load before the rest of the
icons, but I don't know how one would link this to a config, or make it able to
be modified without restarting the plasmashell. Currently I do this every
update because I like the arrow on the left rather than the right (it makes it
like a mini version of the menu and taskbar arrangement).

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