https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422006
--- Comment #39 from Méven Car <meve...@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Pete from comment #38) > (In reply to Méven Car from comment #36) > > (In reply to Pete from comment #35) > > > (In reply to Méven Car from comment #34) > > > > (In reply to Pete from comment #33) > > > > > (In reply to Méven Car from comment #32) > > > > > > (In reply to Pete from comment #31) > > > > > > > (In reply to Méven Car from comment #30) > > > > > > > > Which desktop layout are using desktop or folder view ? > > > > > > > > You have folder view if you have icons of your > > > > > > > > wallpaper/desktop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simply put, do you have icons on your desktop ? > > > > > > > > Does opening `desktop:/` in dolphin change the behavior ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A component watching for trash updates, is not started if you > > > > > > > > use the > > > > > > > > "desktop" layout and might explain why I don't reproduce this. > > > > > > > > Haven't checked myself. > > > > > > > > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/blob/master/kioworkers/ > > > > > > > > desktop/desktopnotifier.cpp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another to check is to launch `kcmshell6 kcm_kded` and whether > > > > > > > > or not > > > > > > > > "Directory Watcher" is launched/running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should folder or desktop view affect the behaviour of a file > > > > > > > manager's > > > > > > > ability to monitor its own trash? > > > > > > > > > > > > Because dolphin is mostly tested/used in plasma with default > > > > > > settings, this > > > > > > hasn't been noticed. > > > > > > > > > > > > KDE code spans decades, that we inherit as-is by from previous > > > > > > maintainers, > > > > > > that had limited resources as do we always. > > > > > > Code evolves organically often without overarching design, this is > > > > > > especially true for old components such as trash:/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > A file manager should be entirely independant of a user's desktop > > > > > > > settings. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are correct dolphin shouldn't depend on this, not primarly for > > > > > > design > > > > > > but for not-plasma users of dolphin. Fixing this might be a fix for > > > > > > this bug. > > > > > > > > > > > > But please answer to my questions so I actually _know_ that's the > > > > > > issue. > > > > > > That would be more valuable to fix the bug than having to explain > > > > > > the past. > > > > > > > > > > Understood. But I just tested Dolphin in both folder and desktop view > > > > > and > > > > > the results are the same for both. Emtpy trash continues to show > > > > > contents > > > > > until refreshed manually. > > > > > > > > I should have added you need to logout for the desktop view change to > > > > have > > > > an effect. > > > > > > > > You can use, to otherwise check: > > > > > Another to check is to launch `kcmshell6 kcm_kded` and whether or not > > > > > "Directory Watcher" is launched/running. > > > > > > > > If my hypothesis is correct: > > > > If it is running the bug would not happen, if it is not running the bug > > > > would be present. > > > > > > Am pretty sure its running, Screenshot of my background services: > > > > > > https://imgur.com/a/hPCX0rA > > > > You need to filter at the top right for launched ones. > > Sorry about that. Filtered it and Directory Watcher is running. Seems others > aren't having this issue anymore just me which is weird. > > Operating System: Arch Linux > KDE Plasma Version: 6.1.5 > KDE Frameworks Version: 6.6.0 > Qt Version: 6.7.2 > Kernel Version: 6.10.9-arch1-2 (64-bit) > Graphics Platform: Wayland I confirmed on my side the kded not running is not sufficient to explain the bug. The far-fetched hypothesis is inotify not working (it has a limited number of watches it can handde). That would happen if you have for instance an IDE without a lot of files/folders opened, or more generally a lot of applications. Or a specific that would be buggy. Or dbus not working properly/not installed. But without dbus a lot of other things would be degraded like any notifications. Given you are using arch they are a thousand ways to shout you in the foot. How custom is your arch install ? Did you use infamous plasma-meta package by any chance ? (I am using Arch myself). Then you are missing something from the plasma group https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/KDE -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
