John, I like it. I think it's well thought out and fixes the issues you mentioned.
BR, Jeremy On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM, John Layt <jl...@kde.org> wrote: > Hi, > > [Posting to community rather than www or promo as it covers all 3 > areas and this seems the best place for bike-shedding without spam > cross-posting.] > > I spent a couple of hours on the weekend trying to walk someone > through installing KDE on Windows. While there were several issues > with the KDE Windows Installer, an initial problem came with just > finding the installer. We started at http://www.kde.org/ and clicked > on the prominent "Get KDE Software" which led to > http://www.kde.org/download/ which is where we hit a solid wall of > text over more than one page. Eventually we found the link at the > bottom that took us to http://windows.kde.org/, and finally to > http://windows.kde.org/download.php. That's 4 clicks and a lot of > text to get through when we already knew what we wanted. > > The Download page seems to want to explain what KDE is before letting > you download stuff, but most people going to that page will have > decided they already want to try it and so we should just give them > the info they need most. We can explain KDE elsewhere. We also need > to use terminology that new users will understand, which means leaving > out unnecesary and confusing details. > > I'd like to propose the following text instead (links marked as <text>): > > [Begins] > > The KDE Community produces <Free Software> that can to be used on a > number of operating systems. This page details how to obtain KDE > Software on each of those platforms, but for best results we recommend > you run KDE Applications under KDE Plasma Workspace on Linux or BSD. > To obtain support for using KDE Software please visit the <KDE > UserBase>. > > [h1] Supported Platforms > > [h2] Linux and BSD > > KDE Workspaces and KDE Applications are available for most <Linux and > BSD distributions> by using the distribution's software manager. For > more information please consult your distribution documentation or > user support forums. > > You can try out KDE Software on Linux without changing anything on > your computer by using a <Linux Live CD or USB stick>. > > [h2] Windows > > Many KDE Applications are available for Windows XP, Windows Vista and > Windows 7 using the <KDE Windows Installer>. Some KDE Applications > are also available as <individual downloads>. The level of Windows > support available may vary for individual applications. > > For more information visit the <KDE on Windows home page>. > > [h2] Mac OS X > > Most KDE Applications are only available for Mac OS X by using the > <MacPorts>, <Fink>, or <HomeBrew> package managers. These > installation methods are not recommended for most users. Some KDE > Applications are also available as <individual downloads>. KDE hopes > to provide more user-friendly installation methods in the future. > > For more information visit the <KDE on Mac home page>. > > [h2] Source Packages > > All KDE Software is <Free Software> with the source code freely > available for anyone to download, modify, build, and distribute in > accordence with the terms of <our licences>. You can obtain tarballs > for any release from our <download servers>. > > For more information on building KDE Software from source visit the > <KDE TechBase>. > > [h1] KDE Software > > [h2] KDE Applications > > The KDE Community develops a wide variety of <applications> which can > run under any supported operating system or desktop environment. > These may be released as part of the regularly scheduled KDE > Applications releases, or may be released independently. > > The latest <KDE Applications> release is <version 4.13.2> which was > released on 10 June 2014. > > [h2] KDE Plasma Workspaces > > The KDE Community develops Desktop, Netbook and Tablet workspaces for > use on Linux and BSD systems. > > The latest <KDE Plasma Workspaces> release is <version 4.11> which was > released on 14 August 2013. This is a Long Term Support (LTS) release > that will be supported with bug-fixes until after the release of > Plasma 5. The most recent LTS bug-fix release is <version 4.11.10> > which was released on 10 June 2014. > > [Add at Plasma 5] The Plasma 5.0 desktop was released on 7 July 2014. > While this is a stable release, it is not yet recommended for general > use. > > [h2] KDE Development Libraries > > The KDE Community develops many libraries and tools for software > developers which are used to build the KDE Applications and KDE > Workspaces. Other developers are free to use these for their own > applications under the terms of our licences. See the <KDE TechBase> > for more details. > > The latest <KDE Development Platform> for use with Qt4 is <version > 4.13.2> which was released on 10 June 2014. > > The latest <KDE Frameworks> for use with Qt5 is <version 5.0.0> which > was released on 7 July 2014. > > [Ends] > > This may still need editing down, as the intent should be to fit on a > single page, or at least the platform download links section should. > The Windows and Mac details may be better placed on a separate wiki > pages where we can easily change the list of installers, but that > increases the number of clicks required. The alternative is listing > them all on this page (mostly Krita, Marble, Digikam?). > > The Package Policy page at > http://www.kde.org/download/packagepolicy.php page has a level of > detail that should be on TechBase instead, and its FAQ section strikes > me as rather unprofessional in places and should be removed. > > The CDROM page at http://www.kde.org/download/cdrom.php page seems > archaic and is empty so should either be deleted or replaced with a > list of Live Distros running off USB or CD. A wiki page may be a > better option for such a page? > > The Distributions page at > http://www.kde.org/download/distributions.php page can be kept, but > note that distrowatch.com is broken right now so perhaps we should use > distrowatch.org instead. We may prefer to provide direct links to the > distro homepage rather than always send them to Distrowatch (although > there may be legal issues around that for the eV?). > > Longer term, once we have individual Win and Mac installers per app, > and perhaps apps in the Android store, we are going to need something > better. I have ideas about adapting http://www.kde.org/applications/ > to be a proto app store auto-generated from AppData files with links > to the downloads, but that's a bike-shed for another occasion :-) > > Thoughts? > > John. > _______________________________________________ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community _______________________________________________ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community