Il 20-07-2016 17:57 Christian ha scritto:
Marco Martin <notmart@...> writes:
Hi all,
Hi all, sorry, I'm a bit late to the party, but I just got pointed at
this
thread due to bringing it up on IRC, due to the recent blog post about
the
Telegram / IRC tunnel:
Right now many groups are using Telegram as their primary
communication
medium
due to some limitations in IRC (mainly due to the ease of pasting
images
inline the channel and the lack of fancy mobile clients for IRC),
there
may be
other valid reasons i'm not aware of
today i randomly stumbled upon
http://www.mattermost.org/
it seems to tick all the boxes:
* open source
* we can self host an instance
* fancy mobile and desktop apps
* inline multimedia attachments into messages
* and most important for us old farts: bridge to IRC :p
didn't try it, just stumbled upon it but may be something to be
considered?
I maintain a personal mattermost setup because we are currently
evaluating
it at work.
Maybe I have to say first that due to my background (I am a former
freenode
staff member) I am heavily biased towards IRC. But: if you plan to have
an
alternative to IRC, mattermost would be my recommendation.
Mostly due to, compared to telegram, you having actual control over the
server as well and the server being FOSS, not a proprietary thing
running
through a third party company. It also is very much aimed at
development due
to features like code blocks with syntax highlighting. It also is a bit
less
of a mess because it provides Teams (similar to what IRC Networks are)
and
rooms (similar to what IRC channels are) and can be well structured.
It can also integrate rather well with various ticketing and monitoring
solutions, plus, similar to telegram, can tunnel to / from IRC.
So if some people, for whatever reasons, want to use anything else than
IRC:
my recommendation is that KDE infra provides something. Else there will
be
an uncontrollable mess of various protocols used by various groups, so
people end up with n clients just to stay in touch with various parts.
I
assume if there was an official tool provided people would be less
likely to
use whatever alternatives they know from personal use. Also at least it
could be centralized still, some protocols do not work terribly well
with
IRC tunnels.
tl;dr recommendation: if some people really can't deal with IRC and
need
alternatives: go with mattermost, but provide an official instance.
Kind regards,
Christian
Hi all, I tried Mattermost, but I still think Matrix[1] is better at the
moment, since it has:
* 2 web clients
* 3 Android clients
* a multi-platform client based on QML
* it's decentralized and also **federated**
* users can be easily found by their email if they setup it, like
Telegram with phone number
* chat history is fully supported
* push notifications
* a lot of bots, including an official IRC-mirror, already available
* support for calls and video-calls (atm not in every client obviously)
* we can eventually run KDE's instance federated with the other ones
I strongly suggest to ready the Matrix's FAQ[2].
Please, let's discuss Mattermost Vs Matrix because at the moment Matrix
seems to me better than Mattermost especially for the values shared by
KDE that Matrix's design bring finally to reality without sacrificing
user experience. If we have to slowly move away from IRC & Telegram, the
choice should be Matrix, this is just my opinion after months in Matrix
rooms.
[1] https://matrix.org/
[2] https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html
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Alessandro Longo
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