Hi, all! Is there any KDE-wide decision on that? Is there any work done on migration from freenode to libera? I mean, if a KDE-project wants to migrate from freenode to libera, what should it do? Do that individually or wait until the whole organisation does that in a bucket?
As far as I can see the following steps are needed: 1) Register the project within libera somehow. There was some form to fill in, but I cannot find it now. 2) Relink the matrix bridge from the old network to the new location. I guess we can register the channel ourselves, but relinking matrix bridge is something out of our control. What should we do for that? On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 9:20 AM Christian Loosli <k...@fuchsnet.ch> wrote: > Dear KDE community, > > it appears that over night, the now new management of freenode started to > revenge-ban former staff from their servers, therefore I am now unable to > connect to freenode and connect to / help out with KDE there. > > They also post heavily cropped private chatlogs on their blog so that they > push their views. https://freenode.net/news/for-foss > full chat log at the bottom of the mail, since the cropped part was > released > without me being asked, I have to assume it's fine to release the rest as > well. > > In addition to that, former official channels from projects that moved to > a > different place were taken over by the new management. > https://mastodon.sdf.org/@kline/106299403921451814 > https://twitter.com/UndeadDrMcCoy/status/1397400278916386820 > > > I've been asked in a KDE channel by a member on why I suggest moving, so: > yeah, this is it. Seizing official channels you do not represent and > banning > members of the community for no reason other than revenge, even though I > am > obviously biased, I really think this is the kind of place that FLOSS > projects > should abandon. > > On more positive sidenotes: We had a very constructive chat with Matrix > folk > earlier this week and are now building up stuff to allow briding, so > should > KDE want to move over, we'd hopefully soon have a Matrix (and thus also > Telegram) bridge available. > > > Kind regards and thanks for the decade of support on freenode, > > Christian > > > --- > > Full chatlog that got croppedly released by Andrew Lee. > As usual, people are free to make up their own opinion if they have the > full > information, and not just bits and pieces. > > > cat 2021-05-11.log > [19:45:43] <rasengan> Hey there, please join #freenode-board -- this is an > official message sent in my capacity as the owner of Freenode. > Additionally, > if you can please use my gpg key and share with me all of the credentials > of > Freenode. Thank you in advance. Just to be clear, this is an official > message from the ownership of Freenode. > [21:05:30] <rasengan> Hi Fuchs, do you have plans to comply? This is an > official request from the Freenode Board > > cat 2021-05-25.log > [21:15:32] <Fuchs> well, good evening, "sole board member and chairman of > freenode" > [21:15:49] <Fuchs> I assume that didn't go exactly as you planned when you > unleashed your bloodhounds, and when you called for my resignation > [21:16:20] <Fuchs> free tip for next time: money might buy you domains or > assets, but it will never buy you the right people, it will never buy you > true > loyality and, most importantly, it will never buy you a community > [21:16:49] <Fuchs> go and build one, with dedication and hard work. Good > luck. > [21:17:54] <rasengan> ? > [21:19:01] <rasengan> Fuchs, you know very well my support for FOSS has > been > strong, what happened here, and why. > [21:19:16] <Fuchs> trivial: > [21:19:35] <Fuchs> you sent your bloodhound lawyers after a well respected > community member, after _you_ misunderstood blog posts and resignation > letters > [21:19:45] <Fuchs> I know christel already corrected you on your gist, > shame > you never updated that > [21:19:57] <Fuchs> I assume by now you also know that there never was a > "merger" between OFTC and freenode planned > [21:20:01] <rasengan> You are very incorrect Fuchs. > [21:20:11] <rasengan> Secondly, you sent your mob on me. > [21:20:19] <Fuchs> and then you tried to throw out respected members of > the > community, and you replaced them with people that have 0 credibility in > the > FOSS world, in some cases even a negative one > [21:20:21] <rasengan> The same mob you leashed on others and I, now I know > I > was wrong to, protected you. > [21:20:25] <rasengan> I can't believe why you're doing this. > [21:20:33] <Fuchs> then you really can't be helped, I guess > [21:20:36] <Fuchs> good luck in your reality > [21:20:51] <Fuchs> and enjoy the scorched earth and smoking ruins and > ashes > that you inherited, killer of IRC > [21:21:02] <rasengan> Fuchs, you are wrong to speak ill of the new > freenode > volunteers. > [21:21:08] <rasengan> They've done quite a bit for FOSS and are > respectable > people. > [21:21:11] <rasengan> Attack me all you want. > [21:21:17] <rasengan> Not the volunteers. Fair? > [21:21:39] <Fuchs> Oh, I don't attack them. The community already has > spoken > on them, I'm rather sure, from the logs I have > [21:21:46] <Fuchs> and I don't attack you either > [21:21:52] <Fuchs> I explain to you what you seem to not want to understand > [21:21:55] <rasengan> But, can you personally refrain from propelling > negativity toward the team members? > [21:22:15] <Fuchs> if you prefer ingorance: go ahead, and watch the rest > of > the communities, projects and sponsors leave you as well. And keep asking > yourself why. > [21:22:23] <Fuchs> you went after my friends, Andrew > [21:22:26] <rasengan> In the meantime, let me try to save freenode. If > you > want to come back in the future let me know. I can forgive you, honestly. > [21:22:32] <Fuchs> what I did here was way more friendlynes than you > deserve > [21:22:43] <rasengan> Thank you for that. > [21:22:47] <Fuchs> if you don't want it: fine. Good luck, king of the > scorched > earth that once was freenode. > [21:23:00] <Fuchs> haha, _you_ forgiving _me_, that's gold > [21:23:11] <Fuchs> good luck then, I shall leave you alone and go build > better. > [21:23:27] <rasengan> I do forgive you. > [21:23:35] <rasengan> And I also hope for the best for Libera. > [21:23:37] <rasengan> Cheers. > > > -- Dmitry Kazakov