Hi Ben,

I was interpreting a real name as a name that requires a first and last name (legally accurate or otherwise) compared to a pseudonym that is usually just a single name. Because the mailing list thread said there was no naming policy but the git hook requires a first and last name, that was the conflict I was bringing up.

However, I would make it more clear on a document of some kind that single name pseudonyms are permitted upon request.

Regards,

Ben

On 2/11/23 20:03, Ben Cooksley wrote:
On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 7:55 AM Ben Bonacci <b...@benbonacci.com> wrote:

    Hi Josh,


Hi Ben,


    According to the mailing list archives from 2020 [1], "there is no
    real
    name policy on this mailing list (or any other KDE infrastructure.)"
    However, according to the community wiki page last updated in October
    2022 [2], there is a git hook for authorship that states "A name is
    considered valid if it is a full name –  it should not be a
    username or
    the first name of the person."


Those two statements don't conflict at all with each other, so not sure what the issue is here.

In that mailing list thread, "real name" should be interpreted as the "legal name" that governments use when issuing identifying documents such as a driver's license, passport, etc.

Full name (or as I have been using in this thread "proper name") simply means a name that has a first name and a family name (or surname as it is called in other places). A pseudonym can certainly still be a full name, however it would not be a real name.


    Perhaps a formal vote or the equivalent policy for handling these
    kinds
    of questions should be held. Then, whatever the final verdict
    would be,
    can be documented in the Code of Conduct or a similar document to
    make
    the policy clear.


That is not required, this area is relatively well settled.


    Regards,

    Ben


Regards,
Ben



    [1] https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdepim-users/2020-June/013299.html

    [2]
    https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Git/Hooks#Authorship_metadata

    On 1/11/23 12:40, Josh wrote:
    > Hello KDE community,
    >
    > I'm not sure if this is the best ML to post it in, but anyway -
    what is our
    > current stance on a real name policy? We were recently asked
    again in a Matrix
    > channel and the consensus seems to be "we don't know?" From what
    I can tell,
    > you *must* use your real name or else our git commit hooks will
    reject any
    > pushes. From some precursory web searches, people say to work
    around this by
    > putting spaces in the git username field. So it's allowed, but
    unofficially? The
    > git commit hook doesn't mention this work around I think.
    >
    > I have gotten more than zero complaints/questions about this
    policy, and I've
    > only been here for a year. When tracking down something
    "official", all I've
    > found is a few mentions on the Community wiki. If we dismissed
    the policy,
    > then we should update those commit hooks. These contributors are
    starting to
    > make non-trivial commits to projects I care about, so it would
    really great if
    > we can accommodate them.
    >
    > Whatever decision we make, can we document this somewhere so I
    can link people
    > to it? Preferably on kde.org <http://kde.org>, where it it's
    immutable and official looking like
    > our code of conduct.
    >
    > (If the reason is "it's because of relicensing", I have a hard
    time tracking
    > down people even when I know their full names. I would prefer
    better reasons
    > than that, if possible 😆)
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Josh
    >
    >
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