El dilluns, 3 de novembre del 2025, a les 22:51:16 (Hora estàndard d’Europa central), Anonymous Viewer va escriure: > > Even still, I don't agree that being "apolitical" in your definition is a > > unquestionable goodm I would like to ask you to question why you think > > being "apolitical" is a good thing. -- > > Margaret "Mae" Miller (she/her) > > Because picking a side will naturally result in the exclusion of people not > on that side.
Exactly, we can do two things: * Include the bullies and exclude the nice people * Include the nice people and exclude the bullies I hope it is clear to you that we prefer the second one. Please, stop bothering us and distracting us from producing software. Best Regards, Albert > Promoting a culture of conformity where there is a chilling > effect on range of people's speech and expression. You end up like GNOME > where there is a clear political majority of a particular school of thought > in the management and development of the project. That in of itself is not > a bad thing, but it is when any it gets to the point where anything > critical or contrary to their world view will end up getting drowned out > and result in your character assassination by getting branded a nazi. This > is the exact kind of activity that I would like to see the KDE community > avoid for the foreseeable future by acknowledging that people participating > will have political views and are free to express themselves as such. But > KDE Plasma as an organisation and project must strive to remain apolitical > to cater to many demographics as possible. That will simply not be the case > if people continue to speak on behalf of KDE Plasma in their capacity as an > employee or contributor to share their political theoretic. > > As some have previously pointed out there, is a time and place for political > activism but KDE Plasma should not be one such place. Inclusion is built > into the very ethos of free and open source software, so there should be no > need for involving identity politics or culture wars any further than it > already has. > > On Nov 2, 2025 at 10:56 PM, Margaret Miller <[email protected]> > wrote:Even still, I don't agree that being "apolitical" in your definition > is a unquestionable goodm I would like to ask you to question why you think > being "apolitical" is a good thing. > -- > Margaret "Mae" Miller (she/her) > > Nov 2, 2025, 14:52 by [email protected]: > > On Sun, 2 Nov 2025, Margaret Miller wrote: > >> No. I love KDE precisely because they're not falling for this > >> "apolitical" > > nonsense that only ever is used to benefit the far right and push out > marginalized people. > > > Hmmm... > > > > With respect, I'd like to ask you to adjust how you assert stuff like > > that. > > > > You're not wrong, Margaret, in stating that there are many instances in > > modern times, especially in the USA and parts of Western Europe (perhaps > elsewhere) that very partisan and political things are done in the name of > being "apolitical." However, someone else's improper use of our common > language shouldn't be a reason for us to redefine words and twist things. > That is, how you phrased your defense of the marginalized was itself > falling into a linguistic trap. I agree with "Slopsec" we all stay out of > it. > > > I believe "Slopsec's" articulation was the more accurate: We can and > > should > > defend being apolitical in KDE and avoid it in ourselves when dealing with > unrelated subjects. And let us not try and redefine the word apolitical or > buy into other people's false definitions. Slopsec asked we keep politics > out of this venue and I agree, and defending those who need defending as > you propose isn't, in my view, political. > > > Word-hijacking has long been, unfortunately, "a thing" in humanity and > > it's > > both insidious and corrosive and is intended, most times, to either divide, > or convince one of false narratives. A simple but obvious example would be > the likes of Nancy Pelosi (among many others) who try and call themselves > "left" just because they're not where current Republicans are, when anyone > of my generation would call them out as 1980's style Republicans. It's an > attempt to redefine the word for their own political purposes and I say we > not buy into it. Apolitical means NOT political. And defending against > bullying as you propose isn't a political act, it's an act born of good > morals. > > > In any event, ABSOLUTELY, Margaret, DEFEND those who need defending, like > > the > marginalized. Lets just try and not talk past one another, please. > > > I hope I haven't just whacked a hornet's nest! > > > > Regards, > > Richard > > > > P.S. You can read MY basic political affiliations in my signature line as > > it > articulates the who and what I pledge allegiance to. RT > > >> -- > >> Margaret "Mae" Miller (she/her) > >> > >> Nov 2, 2025, 14:09 by [email protected]: > >>> Hello everyone, > >>> > >>> Something concerning that was brought to my attention compelled me to > > compose my thoughts. For the sake of maintaining a healthy community with a > diverse array of people from different backgrounds, I would like to implore > that you please keep KDE Plasma apolitical. It should not be used as a > platform for character assassination or the badjacketing of people and > organisations for political views which may differ from your own. There > could be about half a dozen of reasons why KDE Plasma may have wished to > abstain from interacting on X/Twitter and each of them likely to be valid > from a purely technical or utilitarian prospective. Instead, an employee of > KDE Plasma for promotion and communication asserted their own politics and > spoke on behalf of KDE Plasma as a whole in a statement when addressing why > KDE Plasma has stopped posting to X. > > >>> I don't think this is something that should be tolerated in our > >>> community, > > as the politicisation of projects and hobbies only serves to sow division > which leads to ostracism and exclusion rather than inclusion. Hobbies > should be politically neutral as to remain inclusive for all people from > different walks of life. The founding ethos of the free and open source > community ensured that nobody was excluded or marginalised for their > immutable traits or beliefs as they did not matter or would've otherwise > impacted a person's ability to participate. These very founding principles > are being threatened by those who that assert their politics into the > hobbies and projects where it has no business being. The free and open > source movement is political in nature, yes. However, there should be > absolutely no room for identity politics and culture wars which distract > from the very purpose of our hobby. Creating, maintaining and iterating on > software and public infrastructure that anyone may free > > ly use for the betterment of humanity. > > > >>> I've left my thoughts here in good faith as a user of KDE Plasma and > > welcome any discussion or feedback. > > >>> Thank you all for your time and cheers for reading. > >>> > >>> —Slopsec > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sent with https://mailfence.com > >>> Secure and private email > > > > -- > > Richard Troy, Chief Scientist > > Science Tools Corporation > > 510-717-6942 > > [email protected], http://ScienceTools.com/ > > > > I pledge allegiance to We, The People, to mutual peace and harmony, and > > to the natural Earth and biosphere upon which We, The People, depend.
