On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Michael Pyne <mp...@kde.org> wrote: > On Sunday, October 02, 2011 20:01:55 Dario Freddi wrote: >> I know, and I am sorry I had to come to a point where I needed to be >> harsh. You also have to keep in mind I am one of the few guys who does >> the dirty job, and I mostly get flames more than anything. Usually, >> the gratification for a developer is having users saying thanks, your >> app rocks: my gratification is usually getting no feedback at all >> because things work as they should. > > Actually I can empathize a bit. I don't maintain much in kdelibs but I do > maintain KSharedDataCache, and you're almost exactly right: I pretty much > never hear about it unless it's in association with a backtrace. Of course I > am "lucky" in that KSDC is nearly completely hidden from users, so I don't get > flamed over it.
Other "infrastructure" applications and components are also affected by this. In regards to System Settings (which I maintain), I only ever get mail regarding it when it crashes or when I try to change something. It is one of many components (Bluedevil, Network Management, kdelibs, Power Management and so forth) who are expected to "just work". > >> So >> I am sorry and I deeply apologize if I can get easily angry when >> discussions start going down these kind of slopes, but at least try >> and show some understanding from the other side as well. > > I understand, I've sometimes had the misfortune of having to get into debates > with inaccurate "shared state" between the debaters. Just remember that on > kde-core-devel we *are* on your side, and if it seems like we're not then > there's probably some underlying issue or point not being understood clearly. > Sometimes that's not your fault, sometimes it is. But even when it wasn't my > fault I've found it's usually better to simply restate the point that seems > unclear (either in different words or via an example) rather than to refer to > previous emails in a thread. You won't convince everyone this way obviously, > but at least everyone should have the same understanding. > > Of course, you've done exactly that now with the Vimeo video and by posting > the code to git so I will be happy to watch the screencast once Vimeo works > again. :) I downloaded and watched the clip. It works pretty much how I thought it would work - in terms of the System Settings ui and the Plasma applet. (I hope that is two seperate System Settings modules though, so it shows up properly with the classic view) > > Regards, > - Michael Pyne Regards, Ben