On Monday 12 March 2012 19:39:12 Niko Sams wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 19:34, Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: > > On Monday 12 March 2012 19:26:27 Niko Sams wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 13:57, henry miller <h...@millerfarm.com> wrote: > >> > Good ideas, if anyone actually implements it. A couple of comments. > >> > > >> > Most users are not programmers - they will not know how to recogize > >> > similear backtraces are the same root cause. Worse I know of many cases > >> > where I - a programmer - was wrong. > >> > > >> > The more automated detection we can do the better. In fact many random > >> > crashes have been traced down to the same root cause, so we really need > >> > the > >> > ability to check the user's config in a distribution specific way. If > >> > some > >> > misconfiguration is found we can ignore the backtrace. > >> > >> DrKonqi already detects duplicates, which works pretty good usually. > >> But there is still room for improvement... > > > > *cough* > > https://bugs.kde.org/report.cgi?x_axis_field=resolution&y_axis_field=&z_ax > > is_field=&query_format=report- > > table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=kwin&bug_status> > > > UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_sta > > tus=RESOLVED&bug_status=NEEDSINFO&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&lo > > ngdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_ > > file_loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&vo > > tes=&votes_type=greaterthaneq&bug_severity=crash&emailassigned_to1=1&email > > type1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&em > > ailtype2=substring&email2=&emailtype3=substring&email3=&chfield=[Bug+creat > > ion]&chfieldvalue=&chfieldfrom 11-01-01&chfieldto=Now&j_top=AND&f1=noop& > > o1=noop&v1=&format=table&action=wrap > > > > That's the stats for all crash reports reported against kwin since > > 01/01/2011 and now. It illustrates nicely one of the major problems of > > DrKonqui: you can report the duplicates. > > > > Of course KWin is the worst case scenario for measuring DrKonqui as we > > have > > all those nice driver bugs ;-) > > wow, you poor guy :D > > Well then KWin would profit a lot! yes, indeed and I must say that I think your idea is great. If a project gets started I will support it, just to get to the point where we can tell users: click foo than bar to disable baz and the crash is gone :-)
Cheers Martin > And finding duplicates should be > done server side, > so it can be improved without having to wait for DrKonqi getting updated. > > > Niko
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