> On Nov. 22, 2014, 11:20 nachm., Thomas Lübking wrote:
> > kdecore/io/kdebug.cpp, line 717
> > <https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/121213/diff/1/?file=329504#file329504line717>
> >
> >     Why do you need to sharpen the match?
> 
> René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>     Because otherwise the symbol to be demangled is left with a trailing 
> space, which causes the demangle to fail. Wanna know how I know?
> 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
>     Don't know about the GCC behavior on trailing spaces, but one should 
> probably have some "while (in.at(mangledNameEnd) == ' ') --mangledNameEnd;" 
> loop?
> 
> René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>     One could, but why? The start is found with a string, I don't see why the 
> end wouldn't be, given that that loop of yours will always loop just once ...
> 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
>     ... or not at all or thrice - depending on how the mangler feels today.
>     
>     What I mean is that if untrimmed strings are a problem for demangling, 
> one should seek to get rid of all the whitespace generically - i don't care 
> about whether seeking for a string or char, this context is hardly 
> performance critical.
> 
> René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>     this particular bit of whitespace has nothing to do with the mangler or 
> how it feels today. It's formatting done by the backtrace function, which 
> clearly always puts a space-padded `+` rather than one without padding as 
> under Linux.
>     Frankly, in general I'd agree with you, but here I don't see any reason 
> to make the code more complex than it is.
> 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
>     backtrace() is provided by glibc resp. the apple (darwin) libc (i hope).
>     -> What provides /usr/include/execinfo.h on OSX?
>     That's what is needed to be detected (I assume this would affect *all* 
> BSD variants?)
>     
>     > I don't see any reason to make the code more complex than it is.
>     
>     If we're dealing w/ unspecified output and need to sanitize it, we may 
> have to do this generically if we must consider random toolchains aside 
> gcc+glibc.
>     I know that you only care about OSX, but actually OSX is just a good 
> testcase to see whether the code is "correct" or just happens to work.
>     
>     - Do you compile with gcc or clang?
>     - Did you check whether the glibc backtrace() output is actually stripped?
>     - What if we compile glibc w/ llvm and glibc backtrace() fires padded " + 
> " which llvm __cxa_demangle() cannot handle? (ok, rethorical question ;-)
> 
> René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>     > backtrace() is provided by glibc resp. the apple (darwin) libc (i hope).
>     
>     Not that we have something called libc on OS X, but I think that just 
> underlines my point. The C Library is more part of the system than it is of 
> the C "package", so the only check on compiler that would make sense IMHO is 
> on the system compiler, as far as that's possible (like the Apple-provided 
> __APPLE_CC__).
>     
>     > What provides /usr/include/execinfo.h on OSX?
>     
>     If you're talking about packages: either the standard install, or Xcode 
> and/or "Command Line Tools".
>     One shouldn't take OS X as a guideline for any BSD variant, it might even 
> have diverged too much to use BSD as a guideline for what ought to work on OS 
> X.
>     
>     I agree about the sanitising/generalising, which is why I pulled the 
> suppression of trailing whitespace out of the end token search (and you'll 
> notice I don't just suppress spaces). I just don't think it'd make any sense 
> to have a os/toolchain-specific constant and then the actual search 
> one-liner. Just put that search statement in the conditional block and be 
> done with it.
>     
>     This patch has currently been tested only on 10.9(.4), which means I can 
> basically only test with clang. I can affirm though that the existing code 
> doesn't demangle on 10.6 either, whether I use clang or gcc.
>     
>     > Did you check whether the glibc backtrace() output is actually stripped?
>     
>     I don't understand the question?
>     
>     This is what unparsed output from backtrace_symbols looks like (even 
> adding the counter: isn't required):
>     
>     ```
>     0: "0   libkdecore.5.dylib                  0x0000000106656f71 
> _Z14kRealBacktracei + 81"
>     1: "1   kwindowtest                         0x0000000105e322e1 
> _ZN10TestWindow8slotOpenEv + 2753"
>     2: "2   kwindowtest                         0x0000000105e33d68 
> _ZN10TestWindow18qt_static_metacallEP7QObjectN11QMetaObject4CallEiPPv + 184"
>     3: "3   QtCore                              0x0000000106c8d3fd 
> _ZN11QMetaObject8activateEP7QObjectPKS_iPPv + 1693"
>     4: "4   QtGui                               0x0000000106faf419 
> _ZN7QAction8activateENS_11ActionEventE + 233"
>     5: "5   QtGui                               0x00000001073141e4 
> _ZN22QAbstractButtonPrivate5clickEv + 84"
>     6: "6   QtGui                               0x0000000107314fc8 
> _ZN15QAbstractButton17mouseReleaseEventEP11QMouseEvent + 88"
>     7: "7   QtGui                               0x00000001073db67f 
> _ZN11QToolButton17mouseReleaseEventEP11QMouseEvent + 15"
>     8: "8   QtGui                               0x00000001070069bd 
> _ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent + 717"
>     9: "9   QtGui                               0x0000000107314ed4 
> _ZN15QAbstractButton5eventEP6QEvent + 180"
>     10: "10  QtGui                               0x00000001073dbb2a 
> _ZN11QToolButton5eventEP6QEvent + 170"
>     11: "11  QtGui                               0x0000000106fb840c 
> _ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 252"
>     12: "12  QtGui                               0x0000000106fba357 
> _ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 2919"
>     13: "13  QtCore                              0x0000000106c75516 
> _ZN16QCoreApplication14notifyInternalEP7QObjectP6QEvent + 118"
>     14: "14  QtGui                               0x0000000106fb8df6 
> _ZN19QApplicationPrivate14sendMouseEventEP7QWidgetP11QMouseEventS1_S1_PS1_R8QPointerIS0_Eb
>  + 470"
>     15: "15  QtGui                               0x0000000106f67a2a 
> _Z23qt_mac_handleMouseEventP7NSEventN6QEvent4TypeEN2Qt11MouseButtonEP7QWidgetb
>  + 922"
>     16: "16  AppKit                              0x00007fff9491f145 
> -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 781"
>     17: "17  QtGui                               0x0000000106f5f2f1 
> -[QCocoaWindow sendEvent:] + 113"
>     18: "18  AppKit                              0x00007fff948c05d4 
> -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 2021"
>     19: "19  QtGui                               0x0000000106f640fe 
> -[QNSApplication sendEvent:] + 78"
>     20: "20  AppKit                              0x00007fff947109f9 
> -[NSApplication run] + 646"
>     21: "21  QtGui                               0x0000000106f6cba0 
> _ZN19QEventDispatcherMac13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE
>  + 528"
>     22: "22  QtCore                              0x0000000106c728ad 
> _ZN10QEventLoop4execE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE + 477"
>     23: "23  QtCore                              0x0000000106c75ac7 
> _ZN16QCoreApplication4execEv + 199"
>     24: "24  kwindowtest                         0x0000000105e33bdc main + 
> 316"
>     25: "25  libdyld.dylib                       0x00007fff93bb75fd start + 1"
>     26: "26  ???                                 0x0000000000000002 0x0 + 2"
>     ```
>     
>     which is converted to:
>     
>     ```
>     0: 0   libkdecore.5.dylib                  0x0000000106656f71 
> kRealBacktrace(int) + 81
>     1: 1   kwindowtest                         0x0000000105e322e1 
> TestWindow::slotOpen() + 2753
>     2: 2   kwindowtest                         0x0000000105e33d68 
> TestWindow::qt_static_metacall(QObject*, QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) + 184
>     3: 3   QtCore                              0x0000000106c8d3fd 
> QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) + 1693
>     4: 4   QtGui                               0x0000000106faf419 
> QAction::activate(QAction::ActionEvent) + 233
>     5: 5   QtGui                               0x00000001073141e4 
> QAbstractButtonPrivate::click() + 84
>     6: 6   QtGui                               0x0000000107314fc8 
> QAbstractButton::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) + 88
>     7: 7   QtGui                               0x00000001073db67f 
> QToolButton::mouseReleaseEvent(QMouseEvent*) + 15
>     8: 8   QtGui                               0x00000001070069bd 
> QWidget::event(QEvent*) + 717
>     9: 9   QtGui                               0x0000000107314ed4 
> QAbstractButton::event(QEvent*) + 180
>     10: 10  QtGui                               0x00000001073dbb2a 
> QToolButton::event(QEvent*) + 170
>     11: 11  QtGui                               0x0000000106fb840c 
> QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) + 252
>     12: 12  QtGui                               0x0000000106fba357 
> QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) + 2919
>     13: 13  QtCore                              0x0000000106c75516 
> QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) + 118
>     14: 14  QtGui                               0x0000000106fb8df6 
> QApplicationPrivate::sendMouseEvent(QWidget*, QMouseEvent*, QWidget*, 
> QWidget*, QWidget**, QPointer<QWidget>&, bool) + 470
>     15: 15  QtGui                               0x0000000106f67a2a 
> qt_mac_handleMouseEvent(NSEvent*, QEvent::Type, Qt::MouseButton, QWidget*, 
> bool) + 922
>     16: 16  AppKit                              0x00007fff9491f145 -[NSWindow 
> sendEvent:] + 781
>     17: 17  QtGui                               0x0000000106f5f2f1 
> -[QCocoaWindow sendEvent:] + 113
>     18: 18  AppKit                              0x00007fff948c05d4 
> -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 2021
>     19: 19  QtGui                               0x0000000106f640fe 
> -[QNSApplication sendEvent:] + 78
>     20: 20  AppKit                              0x00007fff947109f9 
> -[NSApplication run] + 646
>     21: 21  QtGui                               0x0000000106f6cba0 
> QEventDispatcherMac::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 
> 528
>     22: 22  QtCore                              0x0000000106c728ad 
> QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 477
>     23: 23  QtCore                              0x0000000106c75ac7 
> QCoreApplication::exec() + 199
>     24: 24  kwindowtest                         0x0000000105e33bdc main + 316
>     25: 25  libdyld.dylib                       0x00007fff93bb75fd start + 1
>     26: 26  ???                                 0x0000000000000002 0x0 + 2
>     ```
> 
> René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>     Using a very simple standalone test application I have compared the 
> `backtrace_symbols` output under 10.9.4, using clang and gcc-4.8. Apparently 
> this particular case is simple enough to avoid C++ runtime conflicts (there's 
> main(), a `show_backtrace` function that mimicks `kRealBacktrace` and 
> optionally a `maybeDemangledName` when building as C++).
>     
>     - In pure C, both compilers give
>     ```
>     0   backtrace                           0x0000000104d57d9c show_backtrace 
> + 60
>     ```
>     
>     so the current parser would fail (but it's called from C++ so that's a 
> moot point, or so I hope).
>     
>     - In C++ mode, both compilers give
>     ```
>     0   backtrace                           0x000000010656dbed 
> _Z14show_backtracev + 61
>     ```
>     
>     I'll attach the code so that it can be tested on other platforms too.
> 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
>     Very good - I already felt stupid.
>     The demangled is always nullptr here and the backtrace strings do not end 
> w/ " + *" at all. No matter whether gcc, g++, clang or clang++
>     
>     *shrug*
> 
> René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>     Yeah, on Linux I get
>     
>     ```
>     0: ./backtrace() [0x400fa5]
>     1: ./backtrace() [0x4011d2]
>     2: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf5) 
> [0x7fbc5e1f7ec5]
>     3: ./backtrace() [0x400c49]
>     ```
>     
>     is that comparable to what you're getting? If so, it would seem that 
> backtrace or backtrace_symbols already do their own demangling...

Yupp.
This is of course nasty, because we cannot check "other" requirements - the 
entire demangling should be omitted on linux/glibc > v?.?
(I will argue that this is what I meant by "how the mangler feels today")

Depending on your raw output, I'd btw. suggest to search for " _Z" - a simple " 
_" could (too) easily appear in the lib name?
For " + " ./. "+" + trimming, it becomes a coin flip between "future proof" and 
simplicitly - as demangling is apparently only relevant on eXoticOS™, *me* 
would now leave that choice to you.


- Thomas


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> (Updated Nov. 25, 2014, 2:12 nachm.)
> 
> 
> Review request for KDE Software on Mac OS X and kdelibs.
> 
> 
> Repository: kdelibs
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> This patch adapts the parser in `maybeDemangledName` to the backtrace 
> obtained in `kRealBacktrace` on OS X.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   kdecore/io/kdebug.cpp 872a05a 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/121213/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Works as expected on OS X 10.9.4 .
> 
> 
> File Attachments
> ----------------
> 
> minimal test for backtrace functionality and parsing; can be built as C and 
> C++
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2014/11/25/e9d48fea-2506-493c-b068-26a8e7d12b6c__backtrace.c
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> René J.V. Bertin
> 
>

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