On Monday, March 10, 2014 08:29:35 PM Denis Steckelmacher wrote:
> On 03/10/2014 07:54 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>  > I'd love for you to get more involved in Baloo, as you have tons of
> 
> experience
> 
>  > from Nepomuk. And you're a pretty good coder!
> 
> Thanks! I would be glad to work on Baloo, the codebase is very clear and
> easy to understand. The projects involving the file indexers and writing
> metadata back into files seem very interesting (I also followed the
> discussion about xattrs).
> 
> I think that I will have some free time the coming weeks. By the way,
> would it be possible for me to submit a GSoC proposal for Baloo? Are
> proposals like "doing these 10 small things" accepted by KDE? I'm also
> quite interested in KDevelop, but Baloo is something fresh and new and I
> very much like fresh and new things :)
> 

It's generally preferable to have a proper large project. Though it depends on 
how big those "small things" are.

Did you have anything in mind?

> >> The first commit in my branch adds the methods Term::setPosition,
> >> Term::setLength, Term::position and Term::length. I finally chose to use
> >> these methods instead of a more general setUserData and getUserData,
> >> because I think that exposing a clear API is better than saying "to get
> >> the position of a term, pass _k_term_position to getUserData".
> > 
> > Hmm. Alright. Ignore my previous comment then.
> > 
> > Though who would be the potential consumers of this API? Just the query
> > parser?
> 
> For the moment, the only client of this API is the query builder widget.
> Maybe someone will one day want to use this API (to implement another
> query builder widget or in a search store), but I agree with you that
> this API is not very useful.
> 

Maybe then a more generic API, however ugly, would be preferable.

How about using just "position" instead of "_k_term_position"?

> > Well, this is primarily cause the backends do not support
> > regular-expressions that easily. We can do a regexp match in the file
> > search store, but it will involve match every single file url.
> 
> Is SQLite able to use regular expressions? I have not yet read all the
> fileindexer code, but there is a sqlite database somewhere that could be
> used for that, if feasible.
> 

It seems like it - 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5071601/how-do-i-use-regex-in-a-sqlite-query

But it's not going to be very efficient. I'm not sure if this is something we 
want to expose.

> >> * Date-times are handled by Query, using setDateFilter. The parser
> >> properly lowers date-time comparisons to date filters (see
> >> QueryParser::tuneTerm for all the lowering that takes place), but there
> >> is nothing I can do with times or more advanced comparisons (before a
> >> date-time, between two date-times that are not aligned on a
> >> year/month/day boundary, etc).
> > 
> > The API does support it right now, correct? I'm thinking of something
> > along
> > the lines of Term("modified", date, LessThan). The only problem is the
> > backend not supporting it.
> > 
> > Do you want to add support for that? It should be fairly trivial. Have a
> > look at how the email search store does it.
> 
> It's a good idea, I will take a look at that.
> 
> > What about the widget side of this?
> > 
> > Also, this brings us to the question of how/when do we want to ship this.
> > I'm not very comfortable with shipping it with this release cause it
> > would mean more APIs which we have to stick with.
> > 
> > On option is that we could ship it as a separate library, and not as part
> > of baloocore. This way we can potentially not maintain source/library
> > compatibility on that library. Otherwise this can be shipped separately
> > on top of Baloo.
> > 
> > What are your thoughts on this? Where would you like to see this go?
> 
> The widget still needs to be ported. It should be very simple, though,
> as it does not depend on anything that was in nepomuk-widgets and only
> uses the QueryParser and Term classes.
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, the next version of KDE Platform that will come out
> is 4.13. I don't expect the query parser to be shipped in this release
> (this is still very experimental code added after the first beta), so I
> have nothing against releasing the query parser with KDE Platform 4.14
> (or 5). As the query parser is tightly coupled with the search stores
> (it has to use the same properties as them), and to increase its usage,
> I'd prefer to keep it in Baloo Core.
> 

I'm not sure I follow - It is strongly coupled with the search stores, but 
then so is all searching.

-- 
Vishesh Handa

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