понеділок, 23 вересня 2019 р. 17:14:06 EEST hw написано: > On Monday, September 23, 2019 3:54:01 PM CEST you wrote: > > понеділок, 23 вересня 2019 р. 16:41:35 EEST hw написано: > > > On Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:24:32 AM CEST you wrote: > > > > субота, 21 вересня 2019 р. 00:06:51 EEST ви написали: > > > > > On Friday, September 20, 2019 10:01:24 PM CEST you wrote: > > > > > > пʼятниця, 20 вересня 2019 р. 22:30:08 EEST hw написано: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > Thanks! :) When you can't find the agent and it all looks entirely > > > > > different and doesn't work like this, there is no information in the > > > > > doc. > > > > > > > > No, it looks and behaves absolutely same (the code has not been > > > > changed > > > > for > > > > ~6 years, only Oxygen decoration theme has been replaced by Breeze). > > > > > > That alone makes it look very different. It's unavoidable that looks > > > change (though a note about that won't hurt), and what are users > > > expecting when they are looking a documentation that looks entirely > > > different and and is almost 7 years old? Users aren't going to > > > recognize > > > the documentation, especially when nothing works as the documentation > > > says. > > > > > > Please keep in mind that I was referring to the documentation because I > > > was > > > trying to figure out what was going and was experiencing problems with > > > it. > > > The program still doesn't do what the documentation says. > > > > > > > [...] > > > > To configure the agent you should create the Send Later message first. > > > > As > > > > it is said in the docs: > > > > > > > > "Use Message → Send Later in KMail's composer window to open a dialog > > > > which > > > > allows you to schedule your emails to send at a specific date and > > > > time." > > > > > > What is the "composer window"? > > > > > > I have been looking in the Message menu, and there is no such entry. > > > The > > > first entry is "New Message...". Where else would I look when I wanted > > > to > > > create a new message to send later? > > > > > > I only now noticed by chance that the menu in the message editor window > > > has > > > an entry "Send Later". Attaching a file is the only thing I do in that > > > menu. When I want to send the message, I use the "Send" button --- and > > > am > > > being asked whether to send later or to now later or to cancel. And > > > when > > > I > > > have picked "Send later", of course I expect the messages to show up in > > > the > > > dialog under "File->Delayed Messages...", and I expect that they are > > > being > > > sent when using "File->Send Queued Messages". > > > > > > What else would I expect? Is it possible that the agent has become > > > obsolete and there there are now two several independent ways to send > > > messages later? > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > "You can put the message in your queued messages by selecting the > > > > > Send > > > > > Later button to schedule the message immediately." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what "queued messages" means, this outbox seems to be > > > > > the > > > > > only > > > > > place showing messages designated to be sent later. Messages in > > > > > "Local > > > > > Folders.outbox" may or not be sent and may or may not be removed > > > > > after > > > > > trying to send them --- a while I ago, I had to move the messages > > > > > from > > > > > "Local Folders.outbox" into a Drafts folder and to choose "Send Now" > > > > > in > > > > > order to send at all without too much effort. > > > > > > > > The "queued messages" are the messages you have created to send them > > > > later > > > > (see above). > > > > > > See above, I just press the Send button in the message editor and decide > > > what to do. When I do that, I can see the message in "Local > > > Folders.outbox". Do they show up anywhere else? > > > > > > > It would be strange to configure delayed action without the message > > > > itself. > > > > > > When I'm ready to send the messages I have delayed, I use "File->Send > > > Queued Messages". There no are messages under "File->Delayed > > > Messages..." --- I have been wondering why don't show up there. Is that > > > a bug? > > > > > > > It depends. To be honest, my email provider (ukr.net) forbids such > > > > tricks > > > > with delayed messages so this feature cannot be used. This can be > > > > thought > > > > as a bug. > > > > > > How would they prevent it? They have no way to tell when you created > > > the > > > message. The only indication that could be used could the Date: header, > > > and IIRC the Date: header is not mandatory, and you can set the date to > > > whatever date you like. > > > > Do not have answers for all the questions asked. > > > > This is free software. What works for me does not necessary work for you > > or > > someone else. If you think it should work in a different way it easy to > > send patches through phabricator. > > > > https://community.kde.org/Infrastructure/Phabricator > > > > https://cgit.kde.org/kmail.git/ > > > > Documentation team will be added to reviewers automatically if you patch > > some docbook. > > > > The docbook and screenshots for the Send Later agent has been updated to > > the latest version: > > > > https://cgit.kde.org/kmail.git/commit/? > > id=df33200a6ce2f7b753e7216b8ac6a5fa4024da7a > > I understand there is no desire to fix anything. Even if I wanted to > provide a patch for the documentation --- which I can't because I don't > know how things are supposed to work to begin with and the documentation is > obviously wrong --- all patches I provided have always been ignored. Bug > reports are usually ignored as well. > > So this is just another example of how it doesn't make any sense to do > anything.
Ok. So there will be nothing unusual in this case. Thanks for pushing the update of the docs anyway. Best regards, Yuri