On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 8:26 PM Ben Cooksley <bcooks...@kde.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 12:34 AM Aleix Pol <aleix...@kde.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 1:32 AM Nicolás Alvarez
>> <nicolas.alva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > El jue, 23 de sep. de 2021 a la(s) 19:31, Aleix Pol (aleix...@kde.org) 
>> > escribió:
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 10:12 PM Nicolás Alvarez
>> > > <nicolas.alva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > El jue, 23 de sep. de 2021 a la(s) 08:55, Aleix Pol (aleix...@kde.org) 
>> > > > escribió:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 11:52 AM Ben Cooksley <bcooks...@kde.org> 
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi all,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > It has recently come to our attention that the number of queries 
>> > > > > > being handled for the endpoint 
>> > > > > > https://autoconfig.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml on a day to day basis 
>> > > > > > has gotten to the point where it is causing issues with server 
>> > > > > > responsiveness to other traffic. This is perhaps best summarised 
>> > > > > > by the following:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > root@nicoda /var/log/apache2 # ls -lah ...
>> > > > > > -rw-r----- 1 root adm 458M Sep 23 06:25 autoconfig.kde.org.log.1
>> > > > > > -rw-r----- 1 root adm 381M Sep 23 06:25 networkcheck.kde.org.log.1
>> > > > > > -rw-r----- 1 root adm 143M Sep 23 06:25 www.kde.org.log.1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > root@nicoda /var/log/apache2 # cat autoconfig.kde.org.log.1 | wc -l
>> > > > > > 4,222,343
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Based on those numbers we're looking at 48-49 requests per second 
>> > > > > > (on average - peaks are much higher by many magnitudes), which 
>> > > > > > seems extremely excessive given that this file is only supposed to 
>> > > > > > be retrieved by KDE software when GHNS functionality is triggered. 
>> > > > > > That is supported by the substantial size difference it has over 
>> > > > > > networkcheck.kde.org - which is used by plasma-nm and 
>> > > > > > NetworkManager (on Neon) to check for whether they have a working 
>> > > > > > internet connection - which i'd expect to be the site receiving 
>> > > > > > the most traffic.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > As such, I therefore suspect we have bug(s) in software that makes 
>> > > > > > use of GHNS functionality.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > It would therefore be appreciated if we could please review the 
>> > > > > > software in question to determine whether it is operating 
>> > > > > > correctly. Given that it usually runs in the background on user 
>> > > > > > systems, i'd especially appreciate it if a detailed review could 
>> > > > > > be conducted on Discover and other software that conducts package 
>> > > > > > management operations or assists in managing updates.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Unfortunately all these applications submit a fairly useless user 
>> > > > > > agent (Mozilla/5.0) so it is impossible for Sysadmin to ascertain 
>> > > > > > any further information. If we could get information on the 
>> > > > > > software that is originating the request added to the user agent 
>> > > > > > to assist in investigating these issues in the future that would 
>> > > > > > be extremely helpful.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > Ben
>> > > > >
>> > > > > That's correct. Discover fetches them at startup. It's necessary to 
>> > > > > be
>> > > > > able to check if there are updates on KNS-provided resources.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Incidentally,  I was looking into this yesterday incidentally. We
>> > > > > could see if caching is broken somehow. A request will still be 
>> > > > > needed
>> > > > > though to check if the cache is out of date.
>> > > >
>> > > > Caching seems to be working, since the vast majority of the requests
>> > > > are returning 304 Not Modified.
>> > > >
>> > > > However in *many* cases I see a single IP making multiple requests in
>> > > > the same second, and doing it again the next minute. Here's one IP
>> > > > address picked randomly:
>> > > >
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:25:41 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:25:41 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:25:41 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:25:41 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:27:57 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:27:58 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:27:58 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:28:32 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:28:32 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:28:32 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:28:32 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:28:59 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:28:59 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:28:59 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:28:59 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:30:11 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 200
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:30:11 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:30:11 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 200
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:30:38 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:30:38 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:30:38 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:30:38 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:31:19 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:31:19 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:31:19 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:31:19 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:31:38 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:31:38 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:31:38 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > > [22/Sep/2021:06:31:38 +0000] "GET /ocs/providers.xml HTTP/1.1" 304
>> > > >
>> > > > This continues for hours. And it's not an isolated case; again, the IP
>> > > > I searched for was a random one from the log.
>> > > >
>> > > > There are 120 IP addresses that *each* made more than 10,000 requests
>> > > > in a 24h period.
>> > > >
>> > > > I tried a few GHNS things on my own system and I couldn't reproduce 
>> > > > it...
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Nicolás
>> > >
>> > > Is there a possibilty that we can get an UserAgent of something like
>> > > that to see who's asking?
>> >
>> > Yes please :P
>> >
>> > (all requests to this file currently have "Mozilla/5.0" as the
>> > User-Agent, I very much welcome modifying the code so that it sends
>> > something useful instead)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Nicolás
>>
>> This is for KNS:
>> https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/knewstuff/-/merge_requests/142
>>
>> Attica already sets the UserAgent.
>
>
> Thanks for getting all of these changes through.
> Hopefully in the coming months we'll start to see the impact of these changes.
>
> In the meantime, we've switched autoconfig.kde.org to our CDN provider, which 
> should enable our systems to continue to handle the current load we're 
> experiencing.

Ok, thank you. Please reach out as soon as you see where these
requests are coming from.

Aleix

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