> On Sept. 4, 2016, 2:34 vorm., Christoph Feck wrote:
> > Andreas, any idea which icon the action could use?
> 
> Andreas Kainz wrote:
>     I would use visibility and hint to show/hide the font's that are not 
> available in the selected font. will the font change to "not selected" grayed 
> out when you show all characters also the ones that aren't available?
> 
> Christoph Feck wrote:
>     "visibility" and "hint" is the same icon, but one of them crossed-out. If 
> I use both of them, it is confusing, because the tool button itself has a 
> selected state (sunken frame and selected background).
>     
>     So I see two options:
>     1) use the "hint" icon, and make the button unselected by default. 
> Selecting it, the unavailable characters are then grayed out.
>     2) use the "visibility" icon, and make the button selected by default.
>     Unselecting it, the unavailable characters are then grayed out.
>     
>     Which would you prefer? The code currently uses the unselected button for 
> the default (do not gray-out unavailable characters) but I can reverse it.
>     
>     Regarding your question, I have difficulties to parse it. Let me try to 
> answer from what I understood: If font-merging is enabled, but none of the 
> installed fonts have glyphs for a specific character, then this character is 
> rendered as an rectangle box. The character cell is not disabled, so you will 
> be able to select the character (e.g. to copy/paste it), even if you have no 
> font with this character.
> 
> Heiko Tietze wrote:
>     Third option is to have a less obtrusive visualization (going back to 
> your first proposal) that makes the toggle button obsolete. But I have no 
> idea how to do so since graying out is the opposite of unobtrusive. It 
> depends heavily on the workflow meaning whether or not users should be able 
> to deal with those characters at all.
> 
> Andreas Kainz wrote:
>     personally I wouldn't grayed out by default cause I want to have this 
> symbol and I don't care if this is available or not.
>     
>     on the other hand I think your app is really nice and usefull but you 
> need some time to understand the different drop downs, ... so I didn't know 
> your initial proposal. I will update some mockup where there is written all 
> fonts and if someone select a font (arial) you see the not available chars 
> grayed out as in your app.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/KF5/kcharselect.png


- Andreas


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On Sept. 1, 2016, 4:45 nachm., Christoph Feck wrote:
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> (Updated Sept. 1, 2016, 4:45 nachm.)
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> 
> Review request for KDE Frameworks, KDE Usability and Andreas Kainz.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 97420
>     https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97420
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> 
> Repository: kwidgetsaddons
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> 
> Description
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> 
> Adds a toolbutton to the right of the font combobox to control the "font 
> merging" property of QFont. When selected, characters which are not available 
> in the font are disabled.
> 
> Seeking feedback about:
> - placement of the button
> - used icon (currently "format-text-strikethrough"; it shows an S character 
> which could stand for "substitution")
> - action name and tooltip (see line 477 and 479)
> - and code changes ;)
> 
> I was unsure if the toolbutton could have a popup menu showing three options:
> 1) show characters from all fonts
> 2) disable characters not available in font
> 3) hide characters not available in font
> 
> but I did not implement it, because it felt odd not being able to see _which_ 
> characters are not available in the font.
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
>   src/kcharselect.cpp 30ddd34 
>   src/kcharselect_p.h db0259c 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128680/diff/
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> 
> Testing
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> 
> File Attachments
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> 
> Character table with font substitution (default)
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2016/08/15/7220dddb-ca1b-42a2-966c-791925156baf__snapshot1.png
> Character table with dimming substituted characters
>   
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2016/08/15/67c02866-b12c-4080-b6a4-22e29006448b__snapshot2.png
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Christoph Feck
> 
>

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