Am 13.07.2012 18:51, schrieb Duncan: Hi Duncan,
> Hans Muecke posted on Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:44:04 -0500 as excerpted: > >> Howdy folks, >> >> Ran into a strange problem ... >> >> Kubuntu 12.04LTS/KDE4.8.4 ... >> >> For whatever reason my plasma desktop crashed yesterday. Couldn't get it >> to come up again, so I deleted all the plasma files in the home >> directory to start from scratch. >> I must have done that in the "protected mode" unknowingly ... since >> today - when trying to change one of the desktop effects - I was told >> that I was running protected mode and should switch to the "normal" >> plasma desktop. >> Did as requested and ended up with an "upside down" desktop. Visually >> everything is upside down, but buttons still seem to be where they are >> supposed to be on the desktop (screenshots: http://goo.gl/N4tVF and >> http://goo.gl/YjPtc ). Everything looks fine in protected mode ... minus >> effects that is. >> >> Anyone have an idea what went wrong here and how to possibly correct it? > > That is indeed a strange problem. > > I have a couple ideas, but I guess you're translating from whatever > (looks like German maybe?) to English (or maybe kubuntu changed the names I am doing this from german ... > from kde standard?) and the terms don't quite match what I'm used to. So > let's first confirm that we're talking about the same thing. =:^) > > 1) The thread title says plasma, and the pix look like plasma-desktop > only. So the first thing is to confirm, it's plasma ONLY that's > affected, correct? All other apps look normal? I might have been a bit incorrect here, since I didn't have any applications running at that moment, when I first ran into this problem. I just started from scratch again ... deleted the plasma* files in my home directory, rebooted and this time took care and chose the plasma-desktop session and not the protected one (when I say protected ... I can't think of another word for "abgesichert" which is also used when a windows crashes and gives one the choice of starting windows and starting a protected windows ... I think you get the idea). Started with setting up the desktop and tried to activate desktop effects via schift-alt-f12 and bamm! Everything upside down again, the screen flipped again, as I could tell from the control bar on the left side of the screen and the open system-settings window. Funny "side effect" .. while visually flipped I still had to click in the areas, where all the buttons are supposed to be (hope you understand what I am talking about ... :-) ) Since you mentioned OpenGL I chchanged the composite type to Xrender and I don't the problem there (means I can activate effects without the flipping of the screen). > > Miroslaw's idea is obviously that it's either an xorg config issue, or > indirectly an xorg config issue, thru kde's display settings. But if > that was the case, all X-based apps would be affected, not just plasma. > So if it's plasma only, that can't be it. It's just plasma. > > Also, double-check other kde apps, say konqueror or dolphin, not just > plasma. If it's all kde apps but not other X-based apps (like say > firefox), then it's obviously a kde or possibly a qt setting. (If you > have a qt4 only app that's not kde based, you can try it too, to see if > it's all qt apps or only kde apps.) > > > 2) Looking at the screenshots, it's NOT rotated 180 degrees (upside > down), but actually mirrored vertically. Correct? Rotated would switch > left/right as well, mirrored vertically would not. I've seen options > that do a full rotation, but mirroring is less common. That's gotta be a > clue of some kind, but I'm not sure where it fits in yet. > > > 3) You mention "protected mode" vs. "normal mode". This is the bit that > was most confusing to me. In (English) x86-based computer terminology, > "protected mode" has a specific meaning related to 16-bit vs 32-bit CPU > hardware memory, etc, access modes. But that doesn't /seem/ to have > anything at all to do with what you're describing, so that's gotta be a > translation, distracting me from the real problem since it's bringing in > all those unrelated "protected mode" associations. > > What I /suspect/ you mean is plasma's "lock widgets" / "unlock widgets" > mode toggle, where many plasma settings, the position of various > "plasmoids" (aka widgets), etc, cannot be changed unless widgets are > unlocked. Correct? Nope. I was talking about checking "enable desktop effects at startup". I have it disabled for now. > > It's worth noting that since kde 4.5 or 4.6 or so, plasma has defaulted > to "locked widgets" every time it starts, even if they were unlocked when > it shutdown. Thus, in ordered to change anything that needs widgets > unlocked to change, you always have to unlock them, unless you already > unlocked widgets that plasma session. But simply unlocking them > shouldn't trigger reversing them... so there's a serious bug somewhere, > if that's indeed what you're seeing. Nope ... no problem with the widgets and in fact I have never seen this defaulted behaviour. On my end KDE starts with the last state (means "locked" when previously locked and "unlocked, whern previously unlocked). > > > Honestly, I'm not exactly sure where to take it from there, but > confirming those three things will be a start. FWIW, while I've not seen > the extremely strange behavior you describe and your pictures show, my > desktop is spread over two monitors, and I /have/ seen plasma (JUST > plasma, nothing else) get confused and screwed up, display-wise, when > resolutions change or between having OpenGL on and having it off, etc. > So it's easy for me to understand ONLY plasma getting screwed up, I've > just not seen it get quite THAT screwed up, the vertical mirroring > fashion you describe/show here. > > As for fixing it, I don't have a solid solution for your issue, but with > the various issues I've seen, I've always been able to fiddle with things > to get them back they way they're supposed to be, somehow. But if you > confirm that I'm reading the problem correctly based on the three points > above, hopefully between everybody here we can get it straightened out, > somehow. > -- Talk to you later ... Hans (55 to go) 2012/07/14 10:50 EDDS 141050Z 26017G28KT 9999 SCT038 18/11 Q1011 NOSIG ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.