Gentoo with -semantic-desktop here. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> dE . posted on Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:28:48 +0530 as excerpted: > > > This release of KDE (4.10.1), is till date the buggiest I've seen. > > > > I switched to KDE when it was at 4.4. > > That's strange. Seems quite stable for me. > > But then again, I'm on gentoo and building with USE=-semantic-desktop, > one of the original big bullet items for kde4, and have migrated off of > anything kdepim related since kmail akonadified and destabilized, and off > of konqueror when it became clear that even its devs apparently consider > it no more than a toy, certainly not something worth the security > attention necessary for online banking and the like (see my earlier posts > on that). So after all that's gone, for kde I'm mostly using the base > desktop, kwin, plasma, and the infrastructure to support them, and while > plasma in particular was HORRIBLE in early kde4 (even after the kde folks > were insisting it was ready for ordinary users in 4.3, that was alpha, > 4.4 was beta, late 4.5 finally stabilized reasonably such that 4.5.4 or > so was what SHOULD have been released as 4.0), they're all reasonably > stable now, and have been since 4.5 (with a blip in early 4.6). > > Altho plasma does sometimes eat its config for breakfast, a terrible > thing if you're a heavy customizer as I am. But I know the files to > restore from backup when necessary... > > Oh, I install and play several of the kde games, too. > > But it's somewhat ironic that while late in the kde3 era I was trying to > find a way to get rid of the last couple gtk2 apps I ran, these days > nearly all my "mission critical" stuff is gtk2: I always ran pan as a > news (nntp) client and it was in fact one of the last gtk2 apps I was > trying to get rid of in the late kde3 era, and then and now I start it > with kde and it's seldom not running as long as I'm in X, but I switched > from kmail and akregator to claws-mail (two separate instances start with > kde, one for mail, one for feeds), and I run firefox now as my browser of > choice. Those are the most important here and they're now all gtk2 > based. Media apps: smplayer2 and vlc are qt4 based as is minitube, for > video. I run mpd with various switchable frontends (including mpc CLI > and qtmpc in X), replacing the jumped-the-shark amarak. Even my CD > burner, which was kde-based k3b, is now... it's gtk2 based but actually I > have to look... graveman, because k3b had a nasty dep on udisks, which > wouldn't have been bad except for what IT pulled in (parted for udisks2, > lvm2 for udisks1, both not something I want/need enough to be willing to > continually build updates from source, as gentoo does. > > So now, my main dep on kde is just the core desktop environment itself, > and that has been reasonably stable, even running the kde prereleases, > which I can do now without too much fear, since I don't have to worry > about pre-release kmail eating mail, or pre-release konqueror crashing > when I need to epay a bill. So again ironically, I'm freeer now to run > the kde pre-releases than I was back when I was running more of kde than > just the core desktop and a few games! > > So... while I started out disagreeing with you, I guess in the end, it > may be that we're not talking about the same overall kde, since some > parts of it kde4 or later development (cough, the kmail/akonadi fiasco) > ruined to the point I migrated off of them, so I don't really know much > about how the wider kde is doing, these days, only the core, which really > has been quite stable for me, as I said since kde 4.5, with a blip in 4.6. > > Anyway, these days I really am quite upbeat about the core kde I actually > still run, with anything akonadi/kdepim/semantic-desktop configured out > and no longer allowed anywhere close to my systems. =:^) > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > ___________________________________________________ > This message is from the kde mailing list. > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. >
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