Kevin Krammer posted on Sun, 09 Mar 2014 14:58:55 +0100 as excerpted: >> Unfortunately, it seems kde is about to lose him to xfce over this >> entire thing. > > While I have never understood the need to switch desktops when switching > a single application nor switching all applications when switching > desktops, I am not so sure it is unfortunate. > > Given these recent articles I much rather have him write fundamentally > wrong stuff about XFCE ;-)
=:^/ As for switching all over one, it seems to me more like a case of the straw that broke the camel's back. Yes, some of it's inaccurate, but you (or perhaps I should say I) can't really blame him for coming to those conclusions given the evidence presented. If I had to take semantic- desktop because I was on a binary distro that didn't give me the chance of turning it off at build-time, I'd probably be on to some other desktop by now as well. Actually, as I've posted before, gentoo/kde /did/ try to do away with the semantic-desktop USE flag and force it on, arguing that runtime turn-off was enough for 4.11, despite upstream's continuing to offer the option. Fortunately they reversed course, but meanwhile, I was carrying the necessary patches to keep kde building without semantic-desktop on my own. And there were a number of us considering a gentoo-user level kde overlay- repo, either continuing the option or simply hard-coding it off, since gentoo/kde was hard-coding it on and people who wanted that could just stick with the main repo. But I didn't know how that was going to turn out, and wasn't sure I was going to be able to keep up the patching on my own, longer term, so before gentoo/kde reversed course, I was beginning to examine the various options, myself. The three DEs on my short-list were razor-qt, xfce, and enlightenment. Being qt-based also, razor-qt would have been the smallest change, but I think once I decided to change I'd have not found it satisfactory. I /suspect/ I'd have ended up on enlightenment, but I'd have given xfce a try as well, so as to have experience with both. But ironically, as I've dropped down to lower levels of kde installed and in particular no longer depend on a kde mail or web client, both the time to build updates and my level of risk exposure from running live code have gone down dramatically, so that I first started running the pre- release, then switched to live-minor-head (4.12-branch-head) and finally to live-major-head (kde4-live). One of these days I'll probably switch to frameworks/5, but I don't see enough apps there to make it worth the trouble just yet. That's been fun, and I've not regretted it yet! =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.