On Monday 19 May 2003 2:25 pm, Rolf Dubitzky wrote: > > Video/Audio (like we currently do) to simplify the timeline. However in > > this case, I would assume that the transition of sound and video would be > > linked together? > > linked yes, but they will still be different things. for any transition > between tracks you will have to specify a video and an audio transition. Of > course tere can be some 'default' audio transition connected to any given > video transition, but still there will be two objects connected to a > transition, one audio, one video.
Ok, I see what you mean. I am wondering though, if this is more a case of prioritising having separate video/audio tracks? At the point where you want to perform different transitions on video and audio, I wonder if it is less confusing to treat them separately. Either way, I think the two transitions would be "merged" into one for the timeline, and treated as a super video-audio transition in which you can change the two transitions in the same way that you can change video/audio codecs separately. > Anoter thing is, even if you treat audio separet from video, the two tracks > should still be locked (at least per default) so that if you move the audio > part, the video gets moved synchronously. Of course :-) though there should also be the option to unlock them so that you can use them asynchronously ;-) > > > I think that one addition that should be made to the transition picture > > is that there should not necessarily be only a single variable that > > changes within a transition - if we assume an audio/visual track for the > > moment, and a crossfade transition, video could have it's own crossfade > > 'red line', and audio could have it's own crossfade line. > > sure. in the separate dialog you can handle as many variables as you want, > and there will be probably not only variables of type "double", which can > be visualized as a "red line", but also of type "Color", "Point", "Box", > etc.... You know, I'm itching to write the colour keyframe widget/track, but there's so much other stuff that needs to be done first :-) > I have started to add some new features to piave targeting this stuff and > have already commited them in the last weeks/days. Since they break VEML > compatibility with kdenlive I opened a new CVS-branch "V00-03-devel" which > will eventually become piave 0.3.0 . To handle effects and transitions > we'll have to modify VEML just a little. piave doesn't really work right > now, but there is a new subdirectory 'examples' where you can see two VEML > files. I think I'll get te examples working in the next weeks. Concider the > 'V00-03-devel' branch as 'unstable' and the CVS HEAD as the 'stable' > branch. Cool, keep me informed :-) My own plan of action is to finish polishing the current timeline functionality, adding more keyboard shortcuts (including menu options), finishing implementing inpoints/outpoints, and at the moment I am reworking the snap-to-grid functionality so that it applies to all tools - you may have noticed that resizing did not snap to clip borders, nor did razoring, etc. This is what I am fixing. Also, some general tidy-ups so that I am ready for the next 'big thing' :-) After that, I was actually going to look at piave and see if I can get import/export of sequences of images working and exposed to kdenlive, which will probably involve some work on the import/export dialogs. > Concerning new file formats, I have not recieved a lot of support, only > from the xine guys. They are working on enix, which looks very nice but is > not very far at this point. The only other option is gstreamer which is > still pretty brain dead from my point of view and I didn't recieve a lot of > usefull comments from their side. Their own non-linear editor project > 'gnonlin' is basicly dead and just shows how complicated it is to use > gstreamer for anything else than building supid pipelines. I still think that we need a couple of formats, just to prove that piave is capable of it :-) As I say, I'll take a look once I am happy with the state of the Gui - about a month away, then - and get up to speed so that I can discuss the finer workings of piave with you ;-) Cheers, Jason -- Jason Wood Homepage : www.uchian.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
