-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 @Ernie: Are you still around here? What do you think of what your idea developed into?
On 12/23/2011 02:47 PM, Till Theato wrote: > On 11/21/2011 03:59 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >> On 11/20/2011 09:57 PM, Till Theato wrote: On 10/13/2011 09:11 >> PM, Dan Dennedy wrote: >>>>> http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/10/the-state-of-diaspora-and-fund.php >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> After this and Novacut, I feel that most open source projects run >>>>> through Kickstarter end up receiving a lot of resentment. >>>>> The community funding model does not match the user >>>>> expectations. > >>> Why we need to refactor Kdenlive before continuing to work on >>> its features: > >> Additionally: When I first had the idea of working full time on >> Kdenlive I thought about some neat new features (definitely no >> special effects though ;)). Such a defined goal would probably >> make a fund raising more attractive. However since I'll have very >> little time till April and since nobody did have much time in the >> past few months this probably won't work out. I am not willing to >> add any big features to the existing code. While it has served >> Kdenlive great in the past it's structures can't hold all of >> Kdenlive's features anymore. That's what we concluded in Randa. > >>> See? ;) That's how I'd sell it. > > If you think that'll convince potential donators... > >>> And maybe add a little more, like: Which features would/could >>> you add afterwards, when refactoring is done? Is stability >>> increased as well? > > Well, I personally probably won't be available much afterwards and > therefore won't be able to add any new features. But of course we > can mention the plans you others have. > >>> What other benefits are there for the users? Does Granjow have >>> git access as well now? (Yes, he does! :D) (Now that I read it >>> again, maybe the last point is not so important to mention) > >>> Regarding the refactoring process itself. Do you think it >>> would make sense if * we other devs would again look at the >>> code and check what could be improved in the code * someone >>> external did a code review (if we find volunteers) before you >>> start working? > > Both ideas sound good. I also plan to publish some ideas on the > general approach to refactoring Kdenlive. > > >>> Simon > >> So I would have to work on refactoring. But how do you sell >> refactoring? > >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Simon A. Eugster >>>>> <simon.eu at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 19.09.2011 19:32, Till Theato wrote: >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 09/17/2011 11:10 PM, Ernie Zahn wrote: >>>>>>>> Hey Simon Sounds great! I'll draft a script then? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wait, wait, wait ... (just a little bit ;)) but thanks >>>>>>> for the will to take care of this! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no 100% certainty that I'll be able to spend >>>>>>> this time on Kdenlive, so we need an alternative just >>>>>>> in case. I'd also like to hear opinions from the >>>>>>> others about how money donated to Kdenlive should be >>>>>>> used. Maybe someone else would also be able to spend >>>>>>> some time on Kdenlive? Maybe Hardware? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Till, I think the fact that Novacut just did one is >>>>>>>> a good reason to do one now. Kdenlive is public and >>>>>>>> is waaay past proof of concept. Users can test drive >>>>>>>> it for themselves. We could advertise at as funding >>>>>>>> for version 1.0. I can speak to that personally since >>>>>>>> I haven't been developing but it's a thought. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We then have to make sure we don't promise to much, so >>>>>>> we don't frustrate anyone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hehe. Sometimes I wonder if we at kdenlive are too >>>>>> honest. Others promise a better world and want money >>>>>> before they even know how to do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I saw some smaller projects on kickstarter as well. What >>>>>> about putting just your 2 months on kickstarter as soon >>>>>> as you know you can spend your time on > >> I will be able to work on it for 8-10 weeks somewhere between >> April (including) and July (including). > >>>>>> doing it? I'm not sure if a bigger campaign would help >>>>>> us too much at the moment, since our main limit is not >>>>>> money but time. And more programmers ;) > >> Even at this scale it will definitely require quite some work. >>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8HX4AACgkQzwEyz7QP6nTjqACeLqYoEXIKsabDUYxVvqSxM0id /cYAn2Jb9dzjUnqAZnjiC12b6l4qA/Pt =Z1h/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----