-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/2011 11:57 PM, Gabriel Gazz?n wrote: > All contributions are good, without a doubt, and all the ideas presented > here have good points. > I tend to favor the solution that allows the "controls part" of the > interface to be the smallest possible of all, provided it has good > usability, naturally. > Of them all, I still think the Adobe style sliders are the ones that are > better. > They provide interactive dragging functionality, they provide direct numeric > input and they are the smallest possible expression of a widget. But perhaps > most of all, they are extensively proven and familiar to all professional, > semi professional and amateur graphics designers, video editors and post > producers worldwide that use any Adobe program (and they are a LOT), so > we're making them feel at home in Kdenlive. > > I personally have used extensively this kind of widget and I long for it in > every other program I also use. They are so useful and so efficient that I > seriously wonder myself, how is that all the other programs haven't > implemented it yet!! > > Regarding the lack of limits awarenes while dragging, this doesn't seem to > affect the ability to drag at all. Moreover, there are parameters that > doesn't have limits at all, like a position coordinate or a rotation, for > example... > > Regarding the current Kdenlive implementation shown in 'jb' mockup, I like
Not implemented yet. > it!! well done!! :) > I'd just remove (or hide) the slider by default (perhaps giving the chance > to bring it back with an option in the program Preferences) > Another thing I'd remove from sight are the Reset icon, substituting it with > a 'right click option' over the numeric value. > > In my opinion anything that allows the UI to devote more size to the actual > video and timeline and less to any other controls is a good thing! > (I'd of course also hide the top buttons bar by default, and perhaps place a > Render button in the already present bottom toolbar to save more space. But > that's for another discussion ;) Why not use the Ctrl + Enter shortcut ? ;) > > Well, just my 0,0001 cent > I will try to improve the widget soon but I'm a bit busy at the moment. Of course if someone else is willing to have a look at it that would be totally awesome. regards Till > Gabriel > > > > > 2011/1/27 jb <jb at kdenlive.org> > >> On Thursday 27 January 2011 05:42:39 Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >>>> I haven't seen this new Krita widget yet, can you point me to a >>>> screenshot showing it? >>>> Thanks! >>> >>> Don't have it around, but it should be something in the lines of: >>> >>> http://mmiworks.net/test/small.png >> >> The current KOffice implementation is not really efficient in my opinion. >> It does >> not support mouse wheel, nor direct value input through keyboard, and the >> up/down arrow are too small to be useful. >> >> About Till's current widget, I also find it disturbing not to see the >> boundaries, user has no idea whether the max value is 100 or 6000. Also, I >> prefer linear scale when dragging, but it's not really useful when you need >> to >> scroll from 0 to 6000 (yes, some effects have that value range) - you would >> need to drag 6 times your whole monitor width to go to the may value... >> >> After thinking a bit about it, I posted a screenshot showing a possible >> widget >> that might come around the limitations noted above. You can see a mockup >> at: >> >> http://kdenlive.org/images/widget_idea.png >> >> However I have no idea how hard it would be to implement it, I only thought >> about the design for the moment. >> >> regards >> jb >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1F4fMACgkQzwEyz7QP6nTBtQCgtl4kBq1I7oD/hMtButu8+pMD MfYAoJwKg30lyrMSJQpQH0uhSQUwJ/ss =8pWL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----